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Would anyone be able to access the Bristol Times paper
for the marriage of Henry Baker widower to Elizabeth Morris Mardon on the 11 Jun 1862, I am trying to locate the name of Henry Bakers first marriage and I am hoping that there might be a mention of it in a marriage announcesment. The Bristol Times was owned by Mardon Son and Hall

parents:Henry Baker
spouse:Elizabeth Morris Mardon
groom's name:Henry Baker
groom's birth date:1830 groom's age:32
bride's name:Elizabeth Morris Mardon
bride's birth date:1839 bride's age:23
marriage date:11 Jun 1862
marriage place:Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name:Henry Baker
bride's father's name:James Mardon
groom's marital status:Widowed
indexing project (batch) number:
M17280-1system origin:
England-EASy
source film number:1596484

Also, would anyone be able to check out the death notices in the Bristol Times of the death of Henry Bakers first wife (name unknown at the present time), his occupation was a Commercial Traveller and Station Master at Midland Railways -Carlton on Trent
he is the nephew of James Mardon who owns Mardon Son & Hall
Henrys Bakers first marriage would have been between 1851-1861

thank you
desiree

Have you tried contacting the main Libary in Bristol?

Did you have a previous 'Thread'?, Mardon, Bristol seems very familiar, am sure it had quite a few replies...(have added Census below, for reference)

Chris :)

1851

BAKER, Henry Head Married M 55 1796 Builder 9 Men
So Molton
Devonshire
BAKER, Mary Wife Married F 53 1798
So Molton
Devonshire
BAKER, John M Son Unmarried M 28 1823 Carpenter
So Molton
Devonshire
BAKER, Henry Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Commercial Traveller
So Molton
Devonshire
Piece:
1891 Folio:
496 Page:
5 Registration District:
South Molton

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address:
Duke Street Parsonage Lane, South Molton County:
Devonshire

1861

BAKER, Henry Head Widower M 30 1831 Station Master
South Malton
Devon
BAKER, Mary Mother Widow F 63 1798 Owner Of Houses
South Malton
Devon

Piece:
2475 Folio:
79 Page:
25 Registration District:
Southwell

Civil Parish:
Carlton on Trent Municipal Borough:
Address:
G N R Station, Street, Carlton On Trent County:
Nottinghamshire

Hello, I live in Australia, so unfortunately I do not have access to the Library regarding the Bristol Times. Yes in 1861 he was a Station Master at Carlton on Trent county. His second wife is my gggrandmother! but it is his first marriage that is of interest to me. It is very elusive.

I do not know if this might help anyone in helping me but when Henry Baker and my gggrandmother Elizabeth Morris Mardon started there family they had twins first. The first being Edith Marie Baker born 1863 and died 1873 and her twin Charlotte Clare Baker born 1863 and died 1863.

Charlotte is not a family name and nor is Clare? so I am also wondering if they may have named there little girl after Henry Bakers first wife?

Also, with James Mardon owning the Bristol Times back then, I would think that perhaps an obituary notice may have been placed in it regarding Henry Bakers first wife, and also the upcoming marriage of his daughter Elizabeth Morris Mardon to Henry Baker and also the death of Charlotte Clare Baker twin sister of Edith Marie Baker born 1863 and died 1863.

desiree

Have you looked to see if they have a website so you can contact them by email?

http://www.bristol.gov.uk/page/about-central-library

The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England), Saturday, June 14, 1862; Issue 3769.

Jun 11th at St Andrews Montpellier by the rev C Evanson
Mr.H baker of Carlton on Trent Notts to Elizabeth Morris eldest daughter of Mr.James Mardon of Sefton Villa Horefield road Bristol

This is brilliant Quoy, thank you so very much for locating this bit of information. I do so hope we are able to locate the death entry for Henry Bakers first wife.

Henry Barker senior ?


Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Thursday, May 18, 1854; Issue 4599.


May 14th at Stoodley near Tiverton Mr. Henry Baker builder late of South Molton very much respected aged 59

well I think it will be one of these

Deaths Dec 1856 (>99%)
BAKER Mary S Molton 5b 281

Deaths Mar 1859 (>99%)
Baker Mary S Molton 5B 351

Deaths Jun 1860 (>99%)
Baker Mary S Molton 5b 331

Baker Mary Amanda S Molton 5b 325

Deaths Sep 1860 (>99%)
Baker Mary S Molton 5b 253

I was just having a look through the deaths for the name Baker and I found

1. "Male" Baker died April quarter 1857

2. Mary Baker died April quarter 1857 both Nottingham Nottinghamshire

Quoy, if you are able to take a look at the Bristol Times for April 1857 I wonder if there is an obituary written in there, or something that will tell us if she and the infant male child that died were related to Henry Baker?

:-)

Thank you Quoy, for all your help so far.

sorry no Obits at all for 1851 to 1861 for your Bakers

Hello Quoy, thank you for checking out the obituaries.
I was wondering if there might be a marriage announcement for Henrys first marriage between 1851 - 1861? also I was wondering if there was anything written in the Bristol Times about Henry Baker starting up in the position as Station Master at Carlton on Trent?

regards
desiree

Hi Quoy, would you be able to tell me the year of death for this one please,

Baker Mary Amanda S Molton 5b 325

regards
desiree

Hello Quoy, I was unable to get the membership to look through The Bristol Times, as I was informed this service is now only available to residents within the UK.

Hello Desiree

I did not know they had stopped access abroad but if you live in Queensland go to
http://www.slq.nnub.net/search?terms=newspapers

if not try your state Library

NAME:
Mary Amanda Baker
DEATH:
Apr 1860 - South Molton, Devonshire

The term needle and Haystack springs to mind

Henry married and became a widower between 1851 and 1861 .

His occupation for some of that time was a Traveller so he could have met and married his wife practically anywhere in the country.

If only he had an unusual middle name or any middle name it would help to narrow down the search.

I searched the railway records on Ancestry and nothing came of that.

I am going to try something else tomorrow

Hi Quoy, I was thinking.

When Henry Baker married the second time there was a marraige announcement in the Bristol Times, because he married James Mardons daughter, who at that time owned the Bristol Times as well as Mardon Son & Hall. Henrys mother Mary, was James Mardons sister. Henry Bakers father was a master builder so was his older brother John Mardon Baker, as well as Henry Baker snrs parents and brothers.

The whole family were very well educated and lived a comfortable life.

I was wondering if there might have been a marriage announcement in the Stoodleigh Paper, which is near Tiverton I believe, and is also where his father died. Also I wonder if there was a marriage announcement in any of the South Molton newspapers or the North Molton newspapers regarding Henry Bakers first marriage. Henry Bakers father came from North Molton. Henry Bakers grandparents on his mothers side came from Clannaborough, Devon, England.

desiree

another one of your's ?

The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, January 18, 1856; Issue 1309. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

Jan 17th at South molton Thomas eldest son of Mr. Wm Baker builder of Chelmsford to
Jane eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas Baker builder of South Molton

this was also in
The Era (London, England), Sunday, January 20, 1856; Issue 904

and her death ?

The Ipswich Journal (Ipswich, England), Saturday, May 23, 1857; Issue 6159

19th at Southmolton North Devon Jane aged 30 wife of Mr. Thomas Baker builder of Cheltanham