Genealogy Chat

Some very different opinions !

Each to their own I guess.

As IGP mentions, I as well do not understand what satisfaction you get from copying others work.

What can I say - Lesson Learnt !! It wont happen again!

If anyone asks me about my family tree at least I can show hard physical evidence of my research , now that is more satisfying than anything!

Thanks for all your opinions!

I had a problem with someone on ancestry before I made my tree private.

She then asked to view my tree on here to which I asked where we were related...no reply so I did not open it to her but she opened hers to me.

I would think every day she adds up to 100 people plus photos and her tree has grown from 13000 at christmas to 27000 today.

What is the point of a huge tree if it is just copied? I know some of the photos she has got off of ancestry trees, but how many people on here have just allowed her access for everything to be taken?

I only have 50 on my tree here, just the grandparents gt grandparents ect not many of the offspring so not much to copy anyway.

jax

Stu

Please could you put some spacing into your posts........i have to give up trying to read them as I get out of breath.......

Patricia

So glad that your life is so wonderful that all you have to worry about is a few words by IGP whose meaning you totally misconstrued.

Wish I could swap places with you................

This subject does crop up regularly......why don't people don't read how the site works before they use it

If you don't want people to copy your tree....DON'T give them unrestricted access

As the meerkat ad says..................SIMPLES!

Hi Squeaky020
lots & lots of people have taken my work as there own so what it was my choice to joIn GR & my choice to open my tree to others i aint moaning about it as others on here have said you had a choice to withhold living relations i would take it as a complament that some one has taken the time to contact me & share our infomation whats the point of doing a tree if you are going to keep it to yourself take infomation but not give infomation back why open your tree if you dont want anybody to take the infomation from it like i said what would be the point you will always get name collectors like i said familys married into a family more than once i had a family member get married to some one who was already in my tree but i would not have known if i did not have the person in my tree already & yes were did that person come from yes some one else's tree
that some one shared with me ages ago i am about to update tham of my findings see it works both ways
kind regards Stu

I don't see the satisfaction in copying someone else's work either, but the hard fact of the matter is that if you put information into the public domain they you no longer have control over what happens to it.

I also agree it would be nice in a perfect world if each and every member asked first before the used information from your tree, but in practice that hardly ever happens either. The fact that you allow another member to see your tree is in itself considered by many, as implied authority to make use of the information contained in it.

GR mention the subject in their Terms and Conditions "Please note that where you make any of your details, information or Submissions available to other members, they may be able to copy and reproduce such details, information or Submissions against your wishes. Genes Reunited shall not be liable to you in the event that a member copies or reproduces your details, information or Submissions."

I would just make one further comment on photographs added to trees. These can be copied by members who have access to your tree and downloaded to their PC. Personally, for this reason, I don't favour putting photos onto the site. There can also be issues surrounding the copyright of photographs, which doesn't apply in the same way to genealogical research

Please don't let the experience put you off. When I first started on here I was slightly taken aback when someone 'copied' part of my tree. Initially I was going to kick up a stink but having slept on it decided not to and we later became good friends.

Nowadays it doesn't bother me.

Hi Stu,

I would never ever copy someone else's whole tree without asking permission first , would you?

Personally I don't see the satisfaction in copying someone else's work, I always try and find the information myself first, if unable to then I ask for help on the message boards, and if it does come to the situation of somebody else having information that I cannot find myself, I always ask permission before using it as it is that person who has took the time and effort to research it.

I really don't want this 'blown out of proportion' , I just wanted other people opinions on the situation.

I am more than willing to share information, I just can't see the problem in people asking first ?!

Kind regards,

Donna.

Hi Squeaky020
i can not see the problem to be honest you could of asked the contact only copy infomation you want them to have you could hide living people i thought the idear of the GR site is to share infomation dont you ever take infomation from a contact which you might want ? & there is a case that in small towns & villages familys married in to a family more than once you aint gonna know this unless you research all the family members which you have been given access to it has happend to me Richardson family married into the Shaw family lots of times i would not of known this if i just stuck to my direct line of the family plus marriage certificates have witness's its nice to know who they are & how they fit into your family
i think there has been given some good advice on here but dont stop shareing your tree if every body done that what would be the piont of GR
Kind Regards Stu

Hi all,

Sorry I never had an input yesterday, internet on the blink!

IGP - indeed poor choice of words, could upset many, only just read this, but get the gist of what you mean.

Margee - Indeed I do have permission to put the living relatives I have on my tree - the other person who swiped my info doesn't.


Can I just add,

I am not in any way selfish , I enjoy sharing my info with others and do regularly, but with people who are genuinely interested!

I do not want people thinking that I am not willing to share, because that isn't the case, just a little miffed why this person done this without even thinking of contacting me first.

An email is being sent his way in regards to 'living relatives' details.

Thanks all

:-) :-)

Jax,

Trees with genuine connections, not necessarily direct ancestors.

One of my particular interests is in researching mini "one-name studies" for some of my lines for the families found in specific areas of the country. Many of the connections I have made with other members are through this work.

I have access to about 100 and I would say 98 of them are not related to me at all, but if they wish to share there tree with me thats up to them.

400 to 600 trees with direct ancestors must be a big family?

Poor choice of words on my part, perhaps, but as I said above, nothing to do with being grouchy.

Original comment now restored and I have added an explanation.

IGP, your comment just said "It must be that time of the month" making it sound as if certain females were being grouchy because of that. You really should have explained at the time.
BTW, I was not the one who requested review.

My comment which someone has decided to report? It was not offensive at all. Regular readers of the boards will understand that this topic comes up approx once a month, sometimes more frequently than that, and would have understood exactly what I meant.

Members views tend to fall broadly into two camps. Those who share their trees and those who don't. I take the view that as long as I feel comfortable with the other person, having exchanged messages and interests and they have a genuine connection to my tree then I will share with them.

To this end I share my tree with approx 400 members on Genes Re-united and have access to around 600 members trees. The difference in number being that some members are more free in granting access than perhaps I am.

Personal experience of over 8 years as a member on here is that most members are genuinely interested in researching their families and not in collecting names as is often suggested. In all that time I have only come across one name collector who suggested I send him a gedcom so he could add my entire tree to his, and one member who copied info against my permission. Both were given short thrift.

At the other end of the spectrum are those who, for whatever reason, refuse to share their tree with anyone. Each to his or her own.

You're very welcome, Welshbird.
IGP, could you please explain your comment?

Hi Margee, thank you very much, so simple when you know how.

Welshbird

Go to your list of contacts. Where it says "Access to Your Tree" click on "Stop"

IGP ?????

Hi all, I'm very interested in this for the same reason, however I didn't know I could cut access to my tree once I had opened it for someone.
As a bit of a techno phobe... how do I go about removing access?

Welshbird