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Im trying to find a birth record of a Elizabeth Gulliner born Chattam England c.1899 her mother was a Susan Gulliner (nee Byrne) she was on 1901 Irish Census age 2 living in Dublin.
Looked on BMD and nothing i believe Gulliner is a mis spelling and also tried variation setting but nothing came up. I would like to trace her fathers name. Can anyone help??

Have you tried looking for her as Byrne, or are you sure mother was married at the time?
Jan

Doesn't seem too likely but anyway!

Name: Mary Elizabeth Gulliver
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1900
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 91

No suitable Elizabeth showing born in Medway. Have you found her parents marriage anywhere?
Thanks

did her parents marry in Ireland or England

I think you may mean Elizabeth was born Chatham Kent so was her father a military man ?

Just for ref 1901 irish census

Residents of a house 126.5 in Thomas Street (Ushers Quay, Dublin)

Byrne Margaret 36 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Wexford General Servant Unemployed Can read and write English Only Not Married -

Gulliner Susan 22 Female Daughter Roman Catholic County Dublin Allowance fr Husband Can read or write English Only Married -

Gulliner Elizebeth 2 Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic Chattam, England None Cannot read or write English Only Not Married -

Jackson Thomas 16 Male Grand Son Roman Catholic County Dublin Poulterers Messenger Can read and write English Only Not Married -

Byrne Nicholas 65 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic County Wexford General Laborer Cannot read or write English Only Married -

Byrne Bridget 63 Female Wife Roman Catholic County Wexford None Cannot read or write English Only Married -

the name was spelt that way on the actual census page

Looked on BMD as Byrne as well and no joy!

I think it possible to that her father was a military man! Cant find marriage either.

HI,

when you say you can't find a marriage either is that for Susan or Elizabeth?

Looking at the 1901 census, couldn't the name be GULLIVER????

1901 Irish census;

Gulliver Edmond Portobello Barracks 12 sheets - Soldiers Barracks, and families (65) Rathmines Dublin 22 M

I can't view it though.

EDIT>>>>>>> Viewed it and he's NOT married.

And just to add to the confusion;

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Gulliver Margaret J Byrne Medway 2a 1224


Medway covers the area of Chatham!!

Things to try:

Medway City Ark
1911 census.

Rose

Tried 1911 census & nothing! Must be somewhere??

Could this be Susan's marriage?

record title: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
name: Susan Mary Byrne
registration district: Dublin South
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1898
volume number: 2
page number: 634
digital folder number: 4195895

residence: Apr - Jun 1898 —Dublin South
marriage: Apr - Jun 1898 —Dublin South

record title: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
name: Ernest Gulliver
registration district: Dublin South
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1898
volume number: 2
page number: 634

Potty,

that looks REALLY good........... well done.

1901 Irish census;

Gulliver E Military Barrack Birr (Rural) King's Co. 21 M

1891 England Census
about Ernest Gulliver Name: Ernest Gulliver
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Susan Gulliver
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutton At Hone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Chatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Chatham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Rochester
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 658
Folio: 72
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Gulliver 45 >> Widow
Ernest Gulliver 11
George Gulliver 8

Confirms wife as SUSAN...... living in Winchester;

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Ernest Gulliver Name: Ernest Gulliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age at enlistment: 35
Birth Parish: Dartford
Birth County: Kent
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 802
Regiment Name: Labour Corps
Number of images: 4



This one has her as SUSAN MARY.. married 08.05.. no year;

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Ernest Gulliver Name: Ernest Gulliver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Dartford
Birth County: Kent
Document Year: 1895
Regimental Number: 4516
Regiment Name: Royal West Kent Regiment
Number of images: 7

oooppsss just reread the last Pension Records......

It states;

"Susan Mary; Struck off character found unsatisfactory"

Reading it it seems that Susans conduct wasn't supported by the Army and she wasn't on the married roll so she was removed.

Confused by this.

This is Ernests death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ernest T Gulliver Name: Ernest T Gulliver
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 440