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flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:16

I have my grandfather as married in 1917 aged 22 so he would have been born in 1895 but on his gravestone he died in 1959 aged 71 so that would mean he was born in 1889. He is in the 1901 census as being 5 so his birth would be 1896. I cant find him in the 1911 but i know he was in the army so perhaps thats why? I know that births ect were not always correct but is 6 years alot? I want to send for his birth cert but having trouble pinning down the correct one. His name is John Robert (surname) so i have found births for 1894 &1898 & then another one for 1895 but name around other way Robert John & the twist is he was known as Bob.
I am in need of help please

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Sep 2011 22:18

Why not give all details - where he is and with whom 1901 - so we can have a look? I assume you know his father's name from his marriage cert.
Are you certain you are looking at the same person each time?
Jan

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:32

1901
Robert Biggs father 1864
Elizabeth mother
Annie May step daugh
Daisy
John ?
Mary
Bessie
Elizabeth
Knowle Hill, Otterbourne, Hampshire

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2011 22:38

Can you list his father with occupation on the marriage cert? Also, the witnesses.

Rose

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:41

Father was Robert Henry Biggs Labourer

Robert Henry Biggs & Rose Hannah Monday as witnesses

John Robert Biggs married Constance Alice Biddlecombe on April 17th 1917

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2011 22:43

Births Dec 1895
Biggs Robert John Winchester 2c 129

Rose

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:45

So his name was Robert John & not John Robert as on the marriage cert.? I have his old tobacco tin & this has JR on it too

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2011 22:45

Rose Hannah was a Biggs:

Marriages Jun 1889
Biggs Rose Hannah Winchester 2c
Monday James Winchester 2c 187

Rose

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:47

Thankyou Rose for your help. I will now send for birth cert.

tempest

tempest Report 2 Sep 2011 22:56

is this the 1901 census you have please?

Address: Knowle Hill, Otterbourne, Allbrook
Registration District: Winchester
Sub District: Hursley

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BIGGS, Robert Head Married M 38 1863 Carter On Farm Romsey Hampshire
BIGGS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 40 1861 Shirley Hampshire
MAY, Annie Daughter F 15 1886 South Stoneham Hampshire
BIGGS, Daisy Daughter F 8 1893 Freemouth Hampshire
BIGGS, John Son M 5 1896 Baddesley Hampshire
BIGGS, Mary Daughter F 3 1898 Portswood Hampshire
BIGGS, Bessie Daughter F 1 1900 Otterbourn Hampshire
BIGGS, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Otterbourn Hampshire

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2011 22:57

Constance was older then? What age is given on the marriage cert?

Births Jun 1889
Biddlecombe Constance Alice N. Forest 2b 707

Rose

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:57

Yes that is the 1901 census i have. Cant find any of them on 1911 census though.

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 22:59

Yes constance was 26

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2011 23:02

Someone got Constance's dob wrong when they registered her death:

Deaths Jun 1946
Biggs Constance A 55 Romsey 2c 92

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 2 Sep 2011 23:05

So Constance knocked a few years off her age. Could be whoever registered John's death didn't know when he was born.

Rose

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 23:14

Good old Constance i say.
It would have been one of his children that registered his death in 1959.
Like me they probably thought his name was John Robert too.

tempest

tempest Report 2 Sep 2011 23:21

here's Daisy

1911 census

Address: 29 Philenon House Southwark

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MASSIMI, Rene De Casa Head Married M 28 1883 Foreign Correspondent Italy Resident
MASSIMI, Charles De Casa Son M 4 1907 Southampton St Marys
MASSIMI, Luigi De Casa Son M 3 1908 London Lambeth
HARTNETT, Herbert Visistor Single M 26 1885 Clerk Office Killarney Resident
>>>BIGGS, Daisy Sister In Law Single F 18 1893 Southampton

tempest

tempest Report 2 Sep 2011 23:23

and Annie

1911 census

Address: 47 Canal Salisbury

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

GLASS, Ernest Alexander Head Single M 30 1881 Ironmonger Dealer Handsworth Staffs
>>>MASSIMI, Annie Servant Married 5 years F 28 1883 Housekeeper Domestic Stoneham Hants

flocker

flocker Report 2 Sep 2011 23:27

Yes i remember i had found Daisy living with Annie Mays husband & family & Annie May was a housekeeper in Salisbury to a Mr Glass whom she later emigrated to australia with & had more children.
I think John sorry Robert jnr was in army but i cant find Robert snr & wife & any of the younger children.

tempest

tempest Report 2 Sep 2011 23:27

and Mary

1911 census Address: 18 Romsey Rdsouthampton

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

CASTRO, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married F 24 1887 House Wife Southampton
CASTRO, Vera Maude Adopted Child F 1 1910 Shirley Southampton
TREEBORNE, Frank William Boarder M 35 1876 Dairyman Old Shirley Southampton
>>>>BIGGS, Mary House Domestic Single F 15 1896 House Domestic Portswoods Southampton