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hi all
have just recieved the marriage certificate of joseph bannister and mary wattis11 october 1841 acton beauchamp worcester
his age is shown as of full age but hers says minor
neither fathers name or profession is on the certificate
my questions are how old would she have been and could this be why the fathers arnt shown ?
thanks for any help you can give
zena :-)

If she was a minor she would need a parent's permission to marry. Was her mother listed as a witness, perhaps?

hi margee
i dont think so the witnesses are margaret ? strellard i think and john harris
thanks for looking zena

Full age was 21.

Fathers' names would be shown no matter what the ages of the couple marrying.........so they mustn't have known them.

Missing fathers name usually means that the person was illegitimate.

At that time 21 was full age. Parental consent would have been required if under 21 (provided the minor had not been previously married) but there was no requirement for the parent to act as witness.

oh ok flick i just thought they might have not told them because of her age
thanks zena :-)

thanks inspector green pen
x zena

For district info ONLY

Marriages Dec 1841 (>99%)
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BANNISTER Joseph Bromyard 26 159
WATTIS Mary Bromyard 26 159

yes that is the one :D

1841.........maybe?

Name: Mary Mattair
[Mary Wattis]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Acton Beauchamp
Hundred: Doddingtree (Upper Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Bromyard
Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1192
Book: 5
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Mattair 30
Mary Mattair 15
Thomas Mattair 8
Jane Mattair 6


Someone has posted the corrections...........but the image is MATTACE, so it's questionable whether this is relevant to your enquiry

Only the two younger children were born in the county

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1841 England Census
about Mary Mattair


Name:

Mary Mattair
[Mary Wattis]

Age: 15


Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826

Gender: Female

Civil parish: Acton beauchamp

Hundred: Doddingtree (Upper Division)


County/Island: Worcestershire

Country: England


Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district:Bromyard

Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome

Neighbors:

Piece: 1192

Book: 5

Folio :6

Page Number:6

Household Members:

Name

Age



Jane Mattair 30
Mary Mattair 15
Thomas Mattair 8
Jane Mattair 6



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1192; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Acton Beauchamp; County: Worcestershire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 6; Page: 6; Line: 21; GSU roll: 464204.

1861??????

Name: Mary Bannister
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Bannister
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Stanford Bishop
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Bromyard
Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 1828
Folio: 147
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bannister 60
Mary Bannister 37
John Bannister 18
Joseph Bannister 12
George Bannister 10
Louisa Bannister 8
Henry Bannister 3
Charles Bannister 4 MO
Jane Wattis 65 ------says 'widow'.....born WALES
Jane Wattis 22 dau of above

hi flick yes that is the family i think
zena

If the age for Joseph is correct, no wonder he just said 'full'

yes thats them louisa is my great great grand mother :D
on find my past the print out says he's 40
his death cert in 1894 says he's 94?

1851??????

Name: Jane Wathouse
[Jane Wattis]
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Lanladus, Wales

Civil parish: Stanford Bishop
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Bromyard
Sub-registration district: Bromyard
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 1980
Folio: 304
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Wathouse 53
Eliza Wathouse 22
Thomas Wathouse 18

Suggestion ONLY

Name: Mary Wattis
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1823
Baptism/Christening Place: ZION INDEPENDENT,LLANIDLOES,MONTGOMERY,WALES
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Wattis
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane Owens
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10460-1
System Origin: Wales-ODM
Source Film Number: 813550
Reference Number:
Collection: Wales Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907

1871

Name: Jane Wallis
[Jane Wattis]
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Mother-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil parish: Linton
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bromyard
Sub-registration district: Brockhampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 2712
Folio: 87
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bannister 52
Mary Bannister 50
Joseph Bannister 21
Louisa Bannister 17
Henry Bannister 13
Charles Bannister 11
Jane Wallis 68
Eliza Whesbury 27
William Morbury 20


Fits nicely with the baptism

thanks flick i would say it is her as i have james as her father he dies c 1900 bromyard i think
zena

I think you need to re-think that death year....lol!