Genealogy Chat

I have made progress on most of my tree, but my Mum's long lost cousin Lily is eluding us.

Her fathers name was Thomas Morris, born 1910.

We don't know the name of her mother....

This made my search difficult, but I looked for all marriages for Morris in Manchester North and South districts between 1925 and 1935, also Conway in Wales for this period, as it seems Tom went to work there and possibly even married there.

I noted all maiden names for women who married Thomas Morriss's for the period 1925 - 1935 , then I did a search on all births for a Lilian Morris, for the same period, hoping that one of the women's maiden names would match, and we would have the right Lily and also her mother.

But she hasn't turned up in the Free BMD and lancashire BMD searches I've done so far, or in here....

this is the one big missing piece in the jigsaw puzzle , and we'd love to find her. Can anyone help?

Thanks again..

ps-

why did I search 1925 - 1935?

Well my Mum thinks he got married somewhere in this period, and also says that Lily was " a good few years" older than her, and my Mum was born in 1940.

probably silly question Did Thomas have a middle initial?

There isn't a marriage in Conway that matches this birth

Births Mar 1930 (>99%)

MORRIS Lily E Davies Conway 11b 599

thanks Rose

No, he had no middle initial.

I saw this one above too, for Lily E, but no marriage for it.

Though it's possible they were married in Manchester ( and that Lily was born there too)....though I didn't find a marriage for a Morris and Davies there either.

Not looking good. :-(

could this be a possible marriage

Name Thomas Morris
Year of Marriage 1935
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Conway
Registration County Caernarvonshire
Spouse's Surname Bradshaw
Volume Number 11B
Volume Page 988

Spouse Match: Thomas MORRIS married Margaret A BRADSHAW

Name Margaret A Bradshaw
Year of Marriage 1935
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Conway
Registration County Caernarvonshire
Spouse's Surname Morris
Volume Number 11B
Volume Page 988

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Births Jun 1936 (>99%)
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Morris Lilian E Bradshaw Wigan 8c 113

Not knowing Wale very well would this marriage be it .

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Tom Morris
Name: Tom Morris
Spouse Surname: Davies
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district: Pontardawe
Registration county (inferred): Glamorganshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 2118
Find Spouse Elvira Davies

In "Search trees"
Lillian Morris 1936 Wigan Manchester

Hi Joe

Did Lillian have any siblings that you could name please.

Sue

Thanks all,

Hi Susan , I will ask my Mum but I think not.

This Conway marriage to Bradshaw could be possible,

though Lily then being born in Wigan would be a bit odd, as all our

family concentrated around Manchester central, North and South....

I will ask my Mum....

Joe, Possibly Margaret's family was in Wigan and she went to mum's for birth...would not be unusual for that to happen, and there are several possible margaret A Bradshaws born in Wigan that could be her, but I can't see any Conway area.

Rose, that's intersting and possible as you say.

Awaiting the word of mater...

I guess a marriage cert. would prove it...

Thanks for the help.

My Mum said that they had another child apart from Lily, a son Anthony who died sometime between 1930 and 1950.

??? just wondering?

Births Mar 1938 (>99%)

Morris Anthony J Lee Manchester N. 8d 761


Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%)

Morris Anthony J 0 Conway

No Lilian to tie in but there is a Valerie L ( maybe known by second name?)
Births Sep 1935 (>99%)

Morris Valerie L Lee Conway 11b 607

BUT no marriage that matches

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Deaths Sep 1938 (>99%)
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Morris Anthony J 0 Conway 11b 479

Sounds promising....Yes , Lily could be a second name...

I 'll ask if Anthony died as a baby , if they know.

This davies name is here again..

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Anthony Morris
Name: Anthony Morris
Mother's Maiden Surname: Davies
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1938
Registration district: Wrexham
Registration County: Wales
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 354

Several names and leads are popping up, but I think I may be looking in the wrong places -

Can someone tell me please, which district/ county would Llandudno have come under between 1925 and 1940?

Is Conway the right place to look ?

Hi Joe

I have just looked in a map book and it says

Llandudno is in Conwy there is no A ,it is in North Wales

Sue

Edit
What the map says and other sites are completely dif

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Lilian I Morris
Name: Lilian I Morris
Mother's Maiden Surname: Richards
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1932
Registration district: Wrexham
Registration County: Wales
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 331

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Anthony J Morris
Name: Anthony J Morris
Mother's Maiden Surname: Richards
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1936
Registration district: Swansea
Registration County: Wales
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1184

I know they are in two dif places in Wales but Now if we can put a marriage together ???