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Hi can anyone help. I have a birth cert of person born 1968, looked it up the birth index on here and this persons birth is not there, no entry whats so ever. Looked up all births with the same surname and still nothing, all the others I know of are on the birth index but not this 1 person. Strange could there be a mistake with the uploading of doc's, if anyone has any thoughts please reply, thanks

for one, I don't trust this site


you see only the INDEX, which gives you births for (eg) Smith - Start for a quarter, and then you have to search through all pages shown


We all use either www.freebmd.org.uk, from July 1 1837 to currently ca 1950

OR www.ancestry.co.uk for later registrations.

freebmd is free, but ancestry is subscription



If you want to send me a pm with the name, I'll check on ancestry

DON"T post the name on ehre ........ not wise with a livng person.



sylvia

I believe GR DO now have fully indexed birth records:-

"We are pleased to announce that fully indexed marriage records are now available on Genes Reunited! No more trawling through pages of names, get individual results! And for marriages after March 1912, you will also be able to see the spouse's surname.

Non indexed marriage records are now also included in your Standard subscription, so if you are a standard member, you can see the non indexed marriage records for free. "

you're right IGP

I'd forgotten that

I have just checked my own immediate family births and they are all there, right up to 2006, so somethings are working.

Well, that's why I asked Angeline to send me the name by pm, so I could check on ancestry.

It doesn't matter too much when they were born - what really counts is when they were registered - this is probably in column 8. Does it say 1968 or 1969?

So funny, it's defo printed out or I should say typed 27/6/1968 as date of registered, mine has name of informant but his does not. Just seems strange as his dad, cousins, sister and children are all showing but not him.

Are you looking in the right quarter/ You have 42 days ie 6 weeks to register a birth so it may come in the next quarter.For instance my dad was born 28th Dec 1907 and he was reg in mid jan 1908 so his birth in Mar qtr 1908.
I was born in the 3rd week of march and my birth is reg in the June qtr.

EDIT: crossed with your posting

The GRO might misread what's written on their copy, or the copyist at the local office might have made a mistake on the copy sent to the GRO, so the names at the local office can differ from those at the GRO. The GRO have tens of millions of b.certs, so there will be errors made.

You might have a b.cert issued by the local office, not the GRO. I think a GRO b.cert of that era says:
Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a Register of Births in the District above mentioned.
Given at the General Register Office, Somerset House, London, under the seal of said office, the 1st day of January 1968 (or whatever)

I don't have a local b.cert of this age - the closest in time is a d.cert. It says:
I, John Smith, Registrar of Births and Deaths for the sub-district of Knaresborough in the County of York (w.R.) do herby certify that this is a true copy of Entry No. 123 in the Register Book of Deaths for the said Sub-district, and that this Book is now legally in my custody.
[NB Knaresborough is a sub-district of Claro RD]

Just wanted to thank you all for your thoughts but really there is no story to tell apart from I could not find this birth or record of birth on HERE.
I just could not find him on here and thought that very strange seeing as I have his birth cert and the rest of the family are shown and he is not. Could not sleep last night so was going through all the births with the same surname and his did not come up as I said before all the others did but not him.

This cert has sections 1-10.
All I wanted to know was why this birth does not show on here, that was all. It just seemed strange that this one even having a birth cert does not come up in the records on this site !!!!!!!!!!! and yes I checked several times and different ways but nope its not on here xx

It was probably just missed off the index - it does happen. I helped a lady once who had found what looked like twins in a family but could only find the birth reg on the index of one. She checked with the Registry Office where the births were registered and there definitely had been twins.

Have you looked at the index page where it should be? Is the page there? If not, maybe GR have missed transcribing it.

I understand that some get missed off I had a simular problem with ancestry. I had to inform them that they had something missing as I had seen it at a records office in Huntingdonshire but there was no record of it on their site. No one is perfect i understand that, but then yet again we are all paying for membership and we sort of trust them to have the correct facts (or near as...lol).

Just checked births with the same surname and loads came up, cousins, father in law, uncles,aunties, siblings but he was lot listed and I know he was born lol
Thanks once again for all your responses, keeps us on out toes and its such fun when you find a loved one xxx

Angeline,

Sites such as Ancestry are provided with copies, usually on microfilm, of the official records from the General Register Office, so it is not a question of them having correct or incorrect facts, they have the 'Official' and only facts. The only question that we could have is that the information has been indexed incorrectly by their transcriber, so does not show up when doing a search.

Also, have you considered the suggestion, made earlier, that the person had been adopted, in which case the details will NOT appear in any published index? This is the reason that you were asked to supply the exact wording that appeared on the certificate. See Geraldine's post above.

It could also be down to a spelling mistake, . On I am not on ancestry with my birth name , something else , cos they spelt it wrong !

Never ever did that even enter my mind, the thought of adoption is REALLY out of the question, I know the family

I have a full cert stating

1-DOB
2-Name
3-Sex
4-Name & Surname of Father
5-Name, Surname and Maiden surname of Mother
6-Occupation of Father
7-Signature and descrition of residence (no signature though as it's all typed)
8-When registered
9- Signature of registrar (typed again)
10- Name entrered after reg- blank

Sig of registrar is on the bottom of the cert

So I would say the copy I have is a full cert. I checked again just to be sure and nothing. I only pointed this out and asked a question as it seemd strange, life is though x

typed.??....

.....is that usual? all of my so called original Long GRO certs appear to be copies of handwritten text.............

Bob

however the versions obtained from the local registrars office ARE typed

also

those from the local office for births are green, whereas those from the GRO births are red......

Just to say

Angeline sent me the name, I've found it on ancestry, and pm'd it to her.


It was not mis-spelled on ancestry.



sylvia

Bob - a 2010 copy of a 1940 birth from the GRO might be a digital image of the GRO register entry, but a 1940 copy from the GRO might be handwritten or typed - I haven't seen a 1940 digital image - presumably all their digital imaging gear was taken over for war work.

Sylvia - thanks for the update. So looks like a GR problem.