Genealogy Chat

According to the 1871 census Margaret was born Liverpool, this may be her in 1861 staying with David & Margaret Bailey - licenced vitulars, it puts her in the area:

Margaret Roach
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation House Servant
Address Bolton Road
District Bury, Elton
Parish Elton
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Liverpool

Looks like she was a servant to John Dixon in 1851 in Liverpool, but possibly with parents in 1841 (West Derby is part of Liverpool)

Margaret Roach
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Address Wood Street Court
District Derby, West, Derby, West
Parish Walton On The Hill
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Lancashire
Birth County Lancashire

Other family (really bad copy)
John 35 - Horse or House ?? not born in county
Catherine 40 - not born Lancs
Catherine 6 born Lancs

[parents born Ireland according to transcript]

Her birth?
Births Sep 1838 (>99%)
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ROACH Margaret West Derby 20 859

Think this may be her mother in 1851 (a widow):

Catherine Roach
Age 50
Estimated Year of Birth 1801
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation Servant
Address
District West Derby, Toxteth Park
Parish Toxteth Park Extra Parochial
Administrative County Lancashire
Birth Place Ireland

Also in same household Catherine Roach (20) also a servant, but born Ireland.

Yes you are right Flip, esp in a county with excellent resources. On the baptisms site I found a Minister called Geo Haworth so that may be where Haworth got his unusual name. Margaret Roach was his wife and this got transformed into a middle name of "Roche" for some of the subsequent children. I believe she was from Ireland.

Yes, I've edited my post, thought you'd be in bed by now! Think that is her birth I posted in West Derby. Not that many Roche's around. On a later census, if it is the right Catherine (mother) she was born Dublin, still a widow & servant.