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It would be worth getting Richard's marriage cert of 1888 to see if George is recorded as deceased on that.

Ozi

Is this him in 1851?

1851 England Census about George Mills
Name: George Mills
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Soldier
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Sunel, Suffolk, England [I can't work out the town but it certainly doesn't start with an 'S' . It is nothing like the one in Suffolk. This enumerator has funny curlicues on his capitals. His 'E' & 'J' look similar. It does look as if it ends in '...el'.]
Civil Parish: Heston
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Hounslow Barracks

Occupation: Private

Condition as to marriage: unmarried

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Hounslow Barracks

Looks like it might be the 16th (The Queen’s) Regiment of Light Dragoons (Lancers). Lieutenant Colonel Sir John Rowland Smyth is the senior officer on the census and that was the regiment he was with in 1851.

Between the 1820s and 1846 they were in India. On their return from India the 16th were garrisoned in Ireland. This would fit in with the elder son's birth. However it is all guesswork.

Patchem, any other reason the military wouldn't allow a birth record for Clara? Or is it 19th C administration?

Wow, certainly many angles to attack from. Very indepth Ozi. Sorry I dont have the facts to hand. I am on a night shift at work. All off the top of my head.

Ozi, I have the wedding certificate for Clara Arabella in 1892. It states George Nelson Mills is deceased by then. Could not find a birth record though. She would of been born near the barracks then, in York. Nothing on free bmd?

Hi Ozi, as far as I am aware, the Nelson was a male thing. It doesnt appear in 1841 in Ipswich, however you can see where some of the female names come from. Sorry. Getting to know my way round. Shall dispense with name clicking

How do you know that Clara Arabella is your Clara - do you have the wedding certificate?
Do you have a birth certificate for Clara?
Thanks

Added: Clara is 7 in 1871, so born 1863/1864

Did they sometimes use Nelson as well as Mills as the surname?

1891 England Census
about Clara Nelson
Name: Clara Nelson
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Coatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Coatham Christchurch
Town: Coatham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Marske
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Waller 49
Alice Waller 46
Emma Smith 44
Clara Nelson 24

Rose

Thanks, Richard. I've found her.

Births Dec 1893
Exley Frances Arabella W Leeds 9b 423

Thats her Ozbird. She is in 1901 widowed with daughter Frances in Horsforth?

Hi Ozbird, hope i didn't offend. Clara married an Exley in Leeds in 1892 I think? Guess all evidence helps. Will try and find other bits if required. Much appreciated

Never mind:

Marriages Sep 1892
Brown Bernard Leeds 9b 924
EXLEY William Walker Leeds 9b 924
Harradine Arthur Leeds 9b 924
MILLS Clara Arabella Leeds 9b 924
Roach Annie Leeds 9b 924

I understand that you're looking for George, Richard, but every little bit of info gleaned and shared helps track the family down. Widowed mothers are often living with their sons or daughters.

For example when & where was Clara married?

Ozi

Ozbird, that is my Gt grandads wedding. Richard died of TB in 1897. Many thanks

Thanks Oz bird, thats my great grandfather. Its the death of his father George Nelson in the 1890's i cant find. And where Richards' brother Nelson disappeared to. Any other suggestions? Oh and happy new year.

Could you post the 1891 census, as I can find Richard married in 1891, but not Fanny and Clara?
Thanks

Still in Leeds then.

Marriages Sep 1888
BAGLEY Harriet Webster G Leeds 9b 698 <<<<
Mills Richard Leeds 9b 698 <<<<
PICKERSGILL Eliza Ann Leeds 9b 698
Sanderson James Leeds 9b 698

???
1891 England Census
Name: Richard Mills
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Harriett Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Ed??Drgh, Scotland [on image - Jocks Lodge, Edinburgh, Scotland]
Civil Parish: Heckmondwike
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Heckmondwike
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Heights Lane

Occupation: Boot Pattern Cutter

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Liversedge
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Mills 32
Harriett Mills 38 - Dressmaker; Easingwold, Yorkshire
Richard Mills 2
Gertrude Bagley 7 - step-daughter

Only in 1891 patchem. No Nelson then, dont think George was there. So confusing?

Have you found any of them in 1881 and 1891?
Thanks