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Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 26 Aug 2010 16:37

Were the children's grandparents still alive?
I have seen records where parents took a child back to grandparents' area for baptism.

I think I've trawled all surrounding parishes near the stated Beaulieu Hampshire birthplace of my Henry.
There are trees on Ancestry which have linked him to parents, but I would like to see a bit of evidence.
No one replies when I've asked......

Did young John name John as his father, when he married?
Did John senior leave a Will naming his children?
...Not what you are searching for, but it would all help the case of parentage.

Gwyn

Mary

Mary Report 26 Aug 2010 17:43

Hi Allan,you said John the dad was a joiner.
I think when I read 1851 census he was an engine wright.

Maryb

Allan

Allan Report 26 Aug 2010 21:58

on the birth certs i have he was down as Joiner

Allan

Allan Report 26 Aug 2010 22:01

when John got married he said his father was John Robson, Joiner, John snr did not leave a will when he died in 1862, the grandparents were were living nearby in 1840 when John was born he was the 6th child born to this family, i have checked the baptism records for the whole area no sign of John.

Allan

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 26 Aug 2010 23:48

Bit of lateral thinking here.
My brother had the same name as my dad - after which my dad was known by his second name - even on censuses.
Perhaps, in this situation, John Jr was known by his second name.

Another scenario -
It took me 2 years to find my g grandfather's birth.
He was Sidney on my grand birth cert, on his marriage cert , on his death cert - even on his tombstone.
He was born in 1888. Couldn't find him on the 1891 census. On the 1901 and 1911 census he was Sidney.

He had 3 brothers and 1 sister.
Tried looking up his brothers' births - no luck. I though this a bit odd - apparently 4 children hadn't been registered.
Looked up his younger sister (who brought up my gran from the age of 2) - Found her birth.
Then spent ages trawling Births for the year my ggrandfather was born - unfortunately his surname was very common and i gave up.
Then I ignored him and looked up his sister.
Found her on the 1891 census - she had 4 brothers - Ivan, Sylvanus and Gifford!
On the 1901 census she had 3 brothers, Frederick, Ernest and Sidney - all born in the same place(s) in Cornwall as Ivan Sylvanus and Gifford, parents with the same names, jobs, same places of birth etc!
Took a gamble and got a birth cert for Gifford - he was my grandfather.

Sooo, as soon as they could, these three brothers abandoned their unusual an easy to find names for more common-place names!!!
G grandad took the name Sidney and was Sidney ever after!

Allan

Allan Report 27 Aug 2010 08:54

i have checked the Christian names on the Robsons from 1837 to 1841 and even then there is no sign, i also thought John may not be his 1st name, it sure is a mystery that has gone on for my 11 years Research.

Thanks
Allan