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I have found a marriage on IGI for John Thomas Smith and Margaret Kilpatrick in Glasgow 1880 which would fit in with their daughter's d.o.b. but I can't find it on ScotlandsPeople.
I also can't find them on any census with or without their daughter Isabella d.o.b.c 1882.
Does anyone know how IGI get their information ?

Thank you
jean
They are on their daughter's marriage certificate in 1899 in Glasgow..

That entry is a submitted entry by a member of the LDS.
The message that is with it will tell you more.

For surest results you need them to be extracted records that are taken from parish records.

Thank you FannybyGaslight,

That's very helpful,

regards

jean

Could this be the family in 1891 with Margaret's ages incorrectly mistranscribed?

1891

Name: Isabella Smith
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relationship: Daur:
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarksh, Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 230 Springburn Road
ED: 101
Household schedule number: 24
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1891_253
Household Members:
Name Age
John C Smith 47 b Forfarshire, Arbroath Locomotive Engine Fitter
Maggie Smith 18 b Forfarshire, Arbroath
Isabella Smith 10

Have you found her birth on SP?
That may have her parents date of marriage on it as it is often included on the birth cert.

Where was she born exactly?Do you know?
Or maybe have her date of birth?
Her fathers occupation from her M/C?
Who did she marry?

11 Isabella Smiths born Glasgow 1882..........

Hello Frank...
You still with us then?
Hows the Sporran in this cold weather?

Hi FGB,

It's still freezing and my old sporran is nice and warm, hiding under my kilt :))

The only Smith/Kilpatrick marriage coming up on SP between 1875 and 1885 is this one.

1880 SMITH JAMES KILPATRICK MARY EASTWOOD /LANARK 562/00 0090 VIEW (5 CREDITS)

Hi all ,
Thank you for replying,
Her father's occupation on her marriage cert was Pottery Worker, Her name on IGI is Mary Isabella and her fathers is John Thomas, on her marriage cert. father shown as just Thomas.
She married James McLuskey.
Haven't got her birth yet only marriage cert.

Jean

Thank you FannybyGaslight , not the one , sorry.

The birth for her on IGI is again submitted,so not 100% reliable.

Could you tell us all of what it has on her marriage cert please?
Then we may be able to try and find her on census for you.

And I must be doing something wrong today but blowed if I can find Isabella Smith marrying James McLuskey on SP....

This her??

1901 Scotland Census
about Isabella McClusky
Name: Isabella McClusky
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James ..born Glasgow
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Anderston
Civil parish: Glasgow Kelvinhaugh
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 7 Gilbert St
ED: 59
Household schedule number: 45
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_307
Household Members: Name Age
James McClusky 25 >>Occupation: Dock Labourer
Isabella McClusky 19

Sorry for the confusion,
Yes this is her on the 1901 census with her 1st husband James, which I don't have the marriage cert. for.
Her 2nd husband was Robert Moore, they married in Partick, Glasgow 1929, this is where I got her parents information from.
Father is Thomas Smith , pottery worker, mother is Margaret Smith m.s. Kilpatrick, not shown as deceased.

Thanks
jean

Hey FGB, He's a McCluskey in the marriage and it's 1900........

No Year Surname (M) Forename (M) Surname (F) Forename (F) District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract
1 1900 MCCLUSKEY JAMES SMITH ISABELLA ANDERSTON GLASGOW/LANARK 644/10 0387 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

Thanks Frank..
Will go download it as I am eternally nosey as one knows and HATE being left not knowing !

Still Thomas Smith (Pottery kiln man)and Margaret Kilpatrick as Parents.
Witnesses are no use as not Smiths.

Isabella aged 19....on 1st Dec 1900

Hey FGB,

Got the birth......Mary Isabella Smith,1882, 25th January,Whiteinch, Partick.
and it shows Thomas Smith, Margaret Kilpatrick marriage as 1880, 20th February, Glasgow.....?????

Found Thomas Smith ( pottery Kiln man ) on 1901 census with children and Mother in law Mary Kilpatrick. Will have a look at other census,

Thanks to everyone for all your help.
Jean

Oh WELL done Frank...

So not April as on IGI then ....

But still no marriage coming up for them though.
Dispensed with the formallities maybe/

What is the address on her birth?

Same street as on Isabella ,s marriage cert...

1901 Scotland Census
about Thomas Smith
Name: Thomas Smith
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Anderston
Civil parish: Glasgow Kelvinhaugh
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 6 Eastvale Place
Occupation: Pottery Kiln Man
ED: 55
Household schedule number: 99
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1901_307
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Smith 40
Margaret Smith 24<<born Ireland
William Smith 10
Margaret Smith 8
Annie Smith 3
Elizabeth Smith 11mo
William Kilpatrick 79
Mary Kilpatrick 65