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Hi.Emma Plested c 1848 born Paddington,Middlesex..mistranscibed as PLESTEAD was in Heigham,Norwich,Norfolk in the 1871 census.

Lodging with John Bermingham and family.

Cass

Hi am am now stuck on another branch of the Plested family,

Henry Plested and Elizabeth, née Plunkett, had three children, Emma, 1847, Henry, 1851 and Martha 1854. The children were all born in Marylebone. Probably due to the illness of the father they all moved to Norwich and in 1861 were living next door to Elizabeth's parents and other relations. Henry was an almsman.

Mother Elizabeth died (reg Mar ¼ 1862) and father, Henry died the same year (Reg Dec ¼ 1862)

In 1871, Younger Henry was with his uncle Ephraim Plunkett. but I cannot find the two girls, Emma and Martha. Henry, my ggf, died in 1878, aged 27, and in 1881 Emma was in Manningham, York and Martha was in Hinxton Cambridge. Emma and Martha emigrated to Australia in 1882 and 1884.

Please can anyone find Emma and Martha on the 1871 census.

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Thanks Cass.

The younger Jane was married to Carl Hansherr or Hanssher. ON the 1871 Jane was living with her son Fredk C Hansherr in Charlotte St. I have not found what Ancestry have transcribed it as, but I found it by seaching for Jane's 2nd Husband, Joseph Febick, or Fibik. I found him living next door to Jane and 2 of her children in 1871.

This could be her first husband, 38 years age difference may seem a lot, but is not unheard of. I have come accross a case where the husband is over 40 years older than the wife. In 1991, 72 year old THomas Plested is living with his 70 year old son in law, Joseph Fibik. Jane married Joseph Fibik in 1879, but I cannot find any of them on the 1881. Both her daughters died before then.

Carl Hanniger
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen, Berlin
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: South Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
Charles J Bacon 57
Mary Bacon 50
Carl Hanniger 65

Whatever the neme is, it doesn't look like Hanniger to me.

Albert Plested death ?

Born c 1861 died 1874..registered @ Reigate,Surrey Q3,2a,88.

Cass

Hi David,I doubt whether two son's would be named Alfred..so had a gander and found this baptism from St Michael,Queenhithe,London.

ALBERT Plested born 17th September 1860..baptised 14th October 1860.

Parent's Thomas and Jane Plested...Thomas' occupation;Porter.

Cass

I am now looking at the1871 Census for Thomas Plested born 1818, Wife Jane Sarah and daughter of the same name,
There are two sons called Alfred, one 5 and the second 6 months.
The enumerator seemed not to have counted the second one at first giving a total on that section as 5 males then altered it to 6.

I cannot find the second Alfred on Free BMDs either as a birth or death. On the 1871 census there is only the elder Alfred. Has anyone any idea where the second Alfred came from or went to?

The 4 year old Grandaughter on the 1871 is the daughter of the younger Jane and her name is mispelled. It should be Grace Hansherr.

Do not assume that a cooper only made barrels.
I know this is the only result on old occupation sites.
A wine cooper transfered wine from casks into bottles.
A lot people who work manually in the storage and supply of wine are still referred to as coopers,today.
Many off-licenses still have cooper included in their shop sign.

Thanks Cassidy.

Hi,Yes,Marriage Banns for Thomas Plested to Sarah Ford..21st July 1817.

Ancestry Parish Record's from St Bartolph,Aldgate,London.

Cass

I am returning to this thread as I have just noticed that on MY GR tree I have Thomas Plested married to Sarah Ford at St Botolph Aldgate on 21 July 1817. I cannot remember wher I found this info and cannot find it now. Sarah was a widow in n1851 living with son, Henry and his family. She was Sarah Wiltshire, widow. Husband Thomas died in 1849 which doesn't leave much time for Sarah to mary and be widowed again, so I assumed that Wiltshire was her maiden name. To confuse matters, on the family tree on my PC , I have her as Sarah Wiltshire, or Anthony. Again I cannot remember whhere I got the info. I am getting old and forgetful, so can anyone help?
As this may be confusing, I am looking for Sarah Ford, Marriage 1817, to Thomas Plested, or Sarah Wiltshire, Ford or Anthony born between 1789 and 1798 in Rotherhithe.

Ancestry shows Births 1813-1906
Thomas Plested ,(no date) Mother Sarah Plested, Father Thomas Plested

Could someone look him up please? I searched for the date 1818

Thanks all.

Thanks Ann. I have come accross those last two in the past, in fact I bought the certificate for Thomas and Sarah, thinking there was a connection. it reads:

27 December 1841 Thomas Plested and Jane Sarah Green. bachelor and spinster, St Mary's Church St Marylebone. Both of full age and no address or father's names on cert. Witnesses Thomas Plested (son) and Catherine Green.

If they are the same couple as those on the 1881, the witness Thomas Plested is unlikely to be his son. Perhaps it was the father saying that the Thomas being married was his son. .

1881

Thomas PLESTED Head M Male 62 Chesham, Buckingham, England Chairmaker
Eliza PLESTED Wife M Female 55 Gloucester, Gloucester, England Caner
Rupert PLESTED Son U Male 17 Bourne End, Buckingham, England Chairmaker
Rose PLESTED Daur Female 13 Wycombe, Buckingham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 27 Newland St
Census Place Wycombe, Buckingham, England
Family History Library Film 1341355
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1464 / 6
Page Number 6

1881

Thomas PLESTED Head M Male 63 Stepney, Middlesex, England Porter
Jane S. PLESTED Wife M Female 64 Wandsworth, Surrey, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 31 Hayles St
Census Place Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341119
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0529 / 124
Page Number 21

DIANA PLASTED Pedigree
Female Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS NOWELL Family
Marriage: 10 JUN 1601 Saint Margaret, Westminster, London, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

DIANA PLAISTED Pedigree
Female Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: CHARLES LEVERMORE Family
Marriage: 13 JUN 1779 Saint David, Exeter, Devon, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Thanks for that, I am sure you are correct.

I wonder what happened to Dianah

Can't find anything about her after 1841?

Thanks to you all for your help.

Hi all

I have found a Dianah Plested on Ancestry Birts 1813-1906 but it needs premium membership and I only have basic. Is there anyone who can look that up please? This would be Dsanna Pleastow on the 1841, as the parents are the same.

Thomas Plested died 1846..death registered Maryleborne Q3,1,142.

Hi,Look's like Dianna.