Genealogy Chat

Thanks Cassidy.

Do not assume that a cooper only made barrels.
I know this is the only result on old occupation sites.
A wine cooper transfered wine from casks into bottles.
A lot people who work manually in the storage and supply of wine are still referred to as coopers,today.
Many off-licenses still have cooper included in their shop sign.

I am now looking at the1871 Census for Thomas Plested born 1818, Wife Jane Sarah and daughter of the same name,
There are two sons called Alfred, one 5 and the second 6 months.
The enumerator seemed not to have counted the second one at first giving a total on that section as 5 males then altered it to 6.

I cannot find the second Alfred on Free BMDs either as a birth or death. On the 1871 census there is only the elder Alfred. Has anyone any idea where the second Alfred came from or went to?

The 4 year old Grandaughter on the 1871 is the daughter of the younger Jane and her name is mispelled. It should be Grace Hansherr.

Hi David,I doubt whether two son's would be named Alfred..so had a gander and found this baptism from St Michael,Queenhithe,London.

ALBERT Plested born 17th September 1860..baptised 14th October 1860.

Parent's Thomas and Jane Plested...Thomas' occupation;Porter.

Cass

Albert Plested death ?

Born c 1861 died 1874..registered @ Reigate,Surrey Q3,2a,88.

Cass

Thanks Cass.

The younger Jane was married to Carl Hansherr or Hanssher. ON the 1871 Jane was living with her son Fredk C Hansherr in Charlotte St. I have not found what Ancestry have transcribed it as, but I found it by seaching for Jane's 2nd Husband, Joseph Febick, or Fibik. I found him living next door to Jane and 2 of her children in 1871.

This could be her first husband, 38 years age difference may seem a lot, but is not unheard of. I have come accross a case where the husband is over 40 years older than the wife. In 1991, 72 year old THomas Plested is living with his 70 year old son in law, Joseph Fibik. Jane married Joseph Fibik in 1879, but I cannot find any of them on the 1881. Both her daughters died before then.

Carl Hanniger
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen, Berlin
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: South Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
Charles J Bacon 57
Mary Bacon 50
Carl Hanniger 65

Whatever the neme is, it doesn't look like Hanniger to me.

Hi am am now stuck on another branch of the Plested family,

Henry Plested and Elizabeth, née Plunkett, had three children, Emma, 1847, Henry, 1851 and Martha 1854. The children were all born in Marylebone. Probably due to the illness of the father they all moved to Norwich and in 1861 were living next door to Elizabeth's parents and other relations. Henry was an almsman.

Mother Elizabeth died (reg Mar ¼ 1862) and father, Henry died the same year (Reg Dec ¼ 1862)

In 1871, Younger Henry was with his uncle Ephraim Plunkett. but I cannot find the two girls, Emma and Martha. Henry, my ggf, died in 1878, aged 27, and in 1881 Emma was in Manningham, York and Martha was in Hinxton Cambridge. Emma and Martha emigrated to Australia in 1882 and 1884.

Please can anyone find Emma and Martha on the 1871 census.

Can an

Hi.Emma Plested c 1848 born Paddington,Middlesex..mistranscibed as PLESTEAD was in Heigham,Norwich,Norfolk in the 1871 census.

Lodging with John Bermingham and family.

Cass