Genealogy Chat

Sorry Mrs Grumpy for the delay in replying - many thanks for the info, I will look into

Hazel
xx

Oh and marriages pre 1837 tend not to give much info anyway. Occasionally they give an age and usually give groom's occupation, sometimes the witness names help though.

Jill

You might be able to find more details of his marriage if you can get hold of the parish registers.

Worth looking on Familysearch. The marriage may not show on there but they may hold the film for the parish. You can then order that in to your local LDS church to view.

Keep checking on FreeReg - they are adding more parish records all the time.

Also, another quick point, I've found on censuses that they quite often don't show a middle name or even a middle initial so maybe when searching put in less information in the search boxes.

Jill

Thanks Pam

Just had a look, but the certificate is just a small piece of paper with both their names on - so no way of knowing really whether it is him I suppose?

Thanks
xx

You should find it on Ancestry.

Select Marriages ad then select Pallots Index and you should find it.

Hi Chris

Any chance you can tell me website where you see the marriage for James Thomas Jardine - am looking on Ancestry and can't find anything, didn't know which one you had seen it on.

Thanks xxxxx

Many Thanks for your help Chris

It is really appreciated xx

Adding to my above post

Harriett born Rotherhithe.
Marriage in St Dunstan in the West.
St Dunstan and Rotherhithe are 1.4 miles apart.

You need to see the register entry for the marriage to see if any clues as to whether your James or not.

Chris

Possible...

1841
Name: James Jardine
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Giles in The Fields
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Jardine 30 Born in County ..China M
Harriet Jardine 35
Elisabeth Jardine 12
Harriet Jardine 5
Marie Mitton 55
Sarah Beritt 45

1851
Name: James Jardine
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriot M
Gender: Male
Where born: St Clement Danes, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Clement Danes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
ED, institution, or vessel: 1q
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 190
Household Members: Name Age
James Jardine 44 ..... China Mender
Harriot M Jardine 47
Harriot R Jardine 18
George Jardine 7
Mary Ann Sullian 15

St Katherines by the Tower and St Clement Danes, Middlesex are 0.6 of a mile apart.

Pallots marriage...
Name: James Jardine
Spouse: Harriet Anderson
Marriage Date: 1829
Parish: St. Dunstan In The West

Chris

Hi everyone,

Just wondered if we could go back to my first question, have found the marriage for Amelia and have found all her children and their children, etc.

Still looking for any information regarding James Thomas Jardine (born 8th Nov 1808 St Katherine by the Tower - London) ie: marriage, not sure whether he did get married, just wondered if anyone would mind helping me have a look.

Thanks xx

Thanks Sylvia

I may have to bite the bullet and get the certificate, I haven't done too bad she had six siblings and I have found all the births and marriages apart from one.

Sometimes the Census can be really really helpful and other times when they all disappear off of one census it is just so weird

Thanks again x

There si this Harriet Miller on the 1901 census, it could be her

1901 Census

Name: Harriet Miller
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil parish: Westgate On Sea
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Westgate On Sea
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Thanet
Sub-registration district: Margate

Joseph Miller 37
Harriet Miller 33
Edith Miller 9
Louisa Miller 4
Mercy Miller 1



The only way to be sure woudl be to buy the marriage certificate

...... this would confirm the name of the bridegroom, and also give you the name of her father, thus confirming whether or not she is YOUR Harriet.



syvia

HI can I be cheeky and ask for another bit of help

I am looking for a marriage for Harriet Amelia March - which I have found in 1891 West Ham but how do I know which one she married ie: Joseph Hobbs Miller OR Joseph Edwards??

I have found her birth aswell I think which is in 1867 Mile End, the census for 1871 she was three and this is the right Harriet although it states on the census that she was born in Stepney (London) and not Mile End (London), and I cannot find her on any other census as Harriet March the census also didn't confirm a middle name, am I looking at the wrong one??

Thanks - hope this isn't too confusing - I do waffle

Hazel
x

Many Thanks

Have found Charlotte's marriage to James Woodward in 1868 and Thomas George was married twice and have found both of those marriages (both children of Amelia Jardine and George March) will now have a look for John James

Thanks
xx

Christening for one of their children:

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 1
Select records to download - (50 maximum)

1. JOHN JAMES MARCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 OCT 1839 Saint George In The East, Stepney, London, England

Pallot's Marriage Index information

March Geo.
= Amelia Prior Jardine
St. Geo. East 1830


It is just written on a slip of paper.

Hi everyone - many many thanks for everyone helping me

A bit of an update - in answer to some questions Anna Maria is Amelia's sister, and I was just looking at the marriage certificate I have for Anna Maria Jardine who married James Quested and I am so excited, the witnessess on the certificate are GEORGE MARCH and AMELIA PRIOR MARCH - so Amelia being her sister and then this confirms really Amelia marrying George!!!!

Oh my god I am so excited - I love doing this.

Hazel

xxxxx

From Familysearch.org


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AMELIA JARDINE Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 11 NOV 1800

Christening: 19 SEP 1802 Saint Katherine By The Tower, London, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES JARDINE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

P001442 1770 - 1875 0374460, 0374461 Film 6903590 Film

P001442 1770 - 1875 0374460, 0374461 Film NONE


Sheet: 00

There is this public tree on ancestry ........... I wonde rif this is your Amelia? Where does the Prior come from???


It fits in with the 1841 Census ....... but no proof that she's yours, as no parents are shown.




Scott Shead
Public Member Tree
Unsourced
Amelia Prior Jardine
Birth: 1801 - Middlesex, England
Death: 1869 - Middlesex, England
Marriage: 1830 - Middlesex, England
Spouse: George March

F: (Name Unknown)

M: (Name Unknown)


sylvia

Is this another member of the family?? Or is this your gt gt grandmother?


ANNA MARIA JARDINE Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 08 DEC 1805

Christening: 04 MAY 1806 Saint Katherine By The Tower, London, London, England

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JAMES JARDINE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P001442 1770 - 1875 0374460, 0374461 Film 6903590 Film
P001442 1770 - 1875 0374460, 0374461 Film NONE




sylvia