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Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 18 Jul 2009 20:20

i think that my grandmother and her sister were adopted i know they were from somerset but settled in gosforth newcastle upon tyne they are stella and doris shaw we think the step brother was henry and 2 step sisters maureen and kathleen . any one know how i can find out any information
thank you

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 13:35

oh i am new to all this i think they were around 1900 to 1910 give or take a year or two.
thank you

Rambling

Rambling Report 19 Jul 2009 17:57

there is a Doris shaw on freebmd
Bridgwater Somerset born 1901?

Add...she is on the 1901 census however with parents, no sister ...

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jul 2009 18:16

Karen,

I'm not seeing a Stella and Doris together in 1911. Who were their parents?

Who did your grandmother marry and when did she die?

Rose

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 18:47

hello im sorry i dont have a lot stella shaw married arthur henderson but i think his name is herbert arthur henderson, they had two children linday may and terence, she then married james greaves (greeves) not sure which is right surname they had two children james and diane, now i know my mum linda and terry went in a home for a while and there was a not about stella and doris going to a farm in somerset. i am not sure if she is still alive. her sister doris married jimmy/ james smoult they had a son robert who married linda and they have two children robert and beverly, but dont know any think else sorry
but thank you for your help so far
kind regards
karen

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jul 2009 18:53

Her first marriage was in 1940 so it seems unlikely she was born between 1900 and 1910:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Stella Shaw
Name: Stella Shaw
Spouse Surname: Henderson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1940
Registration district: Northumberland South
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 786
Find Spouse: Herbert A Henderson

Rose

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England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Stella Henderson
Name: Stella Henderson
Spouse Surname: Greeves
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1948
Registration district: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 372
Find Spouse: James Greeves

Rose

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 18:56

oh my word rose you are good i wish i could do that any more help would be greatly appriciated
thank you so much
karen

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jul 2009 18:56

Do you think she married again to a John Thompson?

Rose

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 18:59

oh my god yes she dide i forgot about him

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Doris' marriage:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about James R Smoult
Name: James R Smoult
Spouse Surname: Shaw
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 206
Find Spouse: Doris Shaw

Rose

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Possible death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Stella Thompson
Name: Stella Thompson
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1996
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Register number: 26D
District and Subdistrict: 6773
Entry number: 178

but not seeing a birth that would fit.

Rose

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Doris' death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Doris Smoult
Name: Doris Smoult
Birth Date: 13 Aug 1917
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1997
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Register number: F67C
District and Subdistrict: 0531F
Entry number: 293

Rose

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 19:05

you really are good i know this is cheaky but any more karen i am getting very excited now

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Jul 2009 19:08

Here are the Doris Shaws born then. Nothing for Somerset though.

Births Sep 1917
Shaw Doris Davison Newcastle T. 10b 35
Shaw Doris Woods Burnley 8e 276
Shaw Doris M Cooper Wolverhampton 6b 988

Births Dec 1917
Shaw Doris Hunt W. Derby 8b 662
Shaw Doris Smith Dewsbury 9b 713
Shaw Doris Burnard Chesterfield 7b 1091
Shaw Doris Collins Belper 7b 955

Rose

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 19:11

i cant tell you haw glad i am is there adeath for stella do you know
thank you

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 19 Jul 2009 19:13

Karen you really need the marriage cert of Stella
which I found for you the other day:

Herbert A Henderson
Spouse Surname:Stella Shaw
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1940
Registration district: Northumberland South
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 786

without that it is all speculation

Jennifer

or Karen this is Stella's 2nd marriage

James Greeves
Spouse Surname: Henderson Or Shaw
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1948
Registration district: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 372


and her 3rd

John W Thompson
Spouse Surname: Stella Greeves
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1972
Registration district: Northumberland South
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 757

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 19:17

ok thank you so much you have filled in a few blanks what would you suggest the best thing for me to do now get the certificates did you dind no more shaws kathleen maureen and henry i think they are the step family once again thank you for your time and effort my mum has not seen here family for many many years but i am hopeing that with me doing her and my dads tree that she might try to find the family.
kind regards
karen

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 19 Jul 2009 19:17

Have just been a step behind you Rose all the time so haven't duplicated the findings.

Looks as if they were both born in Newcastle


Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Shaw Doris Davison Newcastle T. 10b 35

Births Jun 1919 (>99%
Shaw Stella Davison Newcastle T 10b 19

You really need Stella's marriage cert to be sure of her age.

Christine

Karen Sayer

Karen Sayer Report 19 Jul 2009 19:20

sorry but where does the davison come in to it thank you both