Genealogy Chat

well done DEE
i can't thank you enough it was a europa moment to see all this, many many thanks for all your effort, i am going to put this in a tree so she can look at it, i will take your advise and look at ancestry. what a wonderful person u r so glad to have met you so to speak, all for the mo, love christinexxxx

possible for sister with daughter Gladys

Marriages Mar 1924 (>99%)
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Bishop Arthur H Philpotts Worcester 6c 195
PHILPOTTS Norah Bishop Worcester 6c 195


Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Bishop Gladys L Philpotts Worcester 6c 182

Emma Janes mother with her parents;

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Bullock
Name: Mary Ann Bullock
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Susanah
Gender: Female
Where born: Martley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Martley
Town: Collins Green
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Martley
Sub-registration district: Martley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Bullock 36
Susanah Bullock 41
William Bullock 14
Susanah Bullock 9
Walter Bullock 7
Mary Ann Bullock 4
Fanny Bullock 7 months


Richard was telling fibs about his age.......... he was born about 1817. I think he was married previously to Ann.

Thomas Philpotts, born 1836 parents marriage??????

JOHN PHILPOTS Pedigree

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Event(s):

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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE HARDING Family
Marriage: 11 SEP 1828 Cradley, Hereford, England



So his mother was Jane Harding.


Dee xx

Emma's Grandparents........ now you see where the name Jane came from;

1841 England Census
about Thomas Philpotts
Name: Thomas Philpotts
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: East and West Cradley
Hundred: Radlow
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bromyard
Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Philpotts 38 <<<<<<< Father
Jane Philpotts 30 <<<<<< Mother
John Philpotts 11
Mary Philpotts 7
Thomas Philpotts 4
Caleb Philpotts 1

Christine........... look what I found;

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Emma Jane Philpotts
Name: Emma Jane Philpotts
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1902
Age: 23
Father's Name: Thomas Philpotts
Spouse's Name: Horace Henry Price
Spouse's Age: 26
Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Price
Marriage Date: 8 Jul 1925


I would say that this confirms that all the info for Emma Jane in the 1911 census is her and then tracing the family back to Mary Ann Bullock and Thomas Philpotts in the previous census would be correct..... you now have Emma Janes' parents.


Dee xx

Hi Christine,

On the 1911 census details that I posted earlier for you Edith Mary, born 1906 is with Emma, this could be her marriage;

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1929
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Chambers George W Philpotts Leominster 6a 1177
Philpotts Edith M Chambers Leominster 6a 1177



Son from this marriage??

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1931
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Chambers John Philpotts Bromyard 6a 694


But I can't see a Gladys???


Dee xx

still looking for emma jane phillpots,
denise
nan's mom emma jane died in childbirth in 1933 so she never knew her mother, her father refused to talk to her about it. nan is now nearly 84 so i thought it would be nice if she could find out who this missing family is before she leaves us all. i have been to see her and looked at all the things she has but no record of who her mom was. then all of a sudden she said "oh" she had a sister who had a daughter called gladys, i think this is the only lead that i have. i have her birth year of 1902 so one of the families that you sent me looks very positive nan,s middle name is mary and the mother of one of the families from martley was called mary, any way if you can trace emma through edith mary 1906 philpotts i am in your debt forever you know so much more than i do, i may never find her mom for her. so anything you can come up with would be most appreciated kindest regards chrisxxx

Are you searching the records from this site??? If so it's sooooooooo expensive, I use ancestry.co.uk, works out much cheaper for me, and they do a 14 day FREE trial!!!

Hi Christine,

You really need to order the Marriage certificate of Emma Jane.......... I would hate to send you barking up the wrong tree!!!

You can order on-line at The General Register, costs £7.00 and takes about 1 week to arrive.. just tick that you know the Area/District, or they'll charge you more. Once you have that if her father is Thomas, then hopefully my work will fall into place for you.


Dee xx

thank you for your help in this, such knowledge, i have just paid £5 in credits , but it just shows you one page and that 's often small, and it eats the credits so quickly, i have not been able to find anything to do with the philpots i dont know how you managed it.

anyway to answer your question i only have her daughters birth cert her daughters marriage cert and emma death cert . there is nothng on them to say who her parents were or her birthday so it is a bug bere, i will press on with what you have given me if you find anymore please let me know thanking you in anticipation hope to hear from you soon kindest regards chris xx

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)
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BULLOCK Mary Ann Worcester 6c 480 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Philpotts Thomas Worcester 6c 480 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
SPRAGG Esther Worcester 6c 480
WALKER George Worcester 6c 480

Think this is Thomas;

1881 England Census
about Thomas Philpotts
Name: Thomas Philpotts
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Cradley, Hereford, England

Civil parish: Cradley
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Stifford Bridge
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer

Registration district: Bromyard
Sub-registration district: Bishops Frome
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lot Powell 43
Elizabeth Powell 44
John P. Powell 18
Emily M. Powell 13
Alice Pugh 16
Thomas Mills 23
Charles Philpotts 56
Thomas Philpotts 46


He lives in Vineyard Barn, by himself. Charles Philpotts is living by himself in the next barn, he was also born Cradley, Hereford. so maybe his brother??

1901 England Census
about Mary Ann Philpott
Name: Mary Ann Philpott
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Collings Green Martley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Martley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Martley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: berrow ????????? GREEN

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Martley
Sub-registration district: Martley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Philpott 70
Mary Ann Philpott 33
Fanny Philpott 10
Norah Philpott 2

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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PHILPOTTS Emma Jane Martley 6c 265

Don't forget that when searching for names there are often mis-spellings, especially like a name Philpotts.... see your title, you've even done it yourself. So don't rule out the 1911 census.

Even ages can vary, especially with us ladies, I often (try and) forget how old I am!!!

Have you ruled this one out???????

1911 census;

HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS EMMA JANE F 1902 9 Martley Worcestershire

Possible others with her;

HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS EDITH MARY F 1906 5 Martley Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS MARY ANN F 1865 46 Martley Worcestershire
HOUSEHOLD PHILLPOTTS THOMAS M 1836 75 Martley Worcestershire

Hi,

Have you got the marriage cert.... it should tell you her fathers name and oocupation;


Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1925 (>99%)
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JONES Elsie M Palfrey Bromyard 6a 1327
Palfrey William R Jones Bromyard 6a 1327
Philpotts Emma J Price Bromyard 6a 1327
Price Horace H Philpotts Bromyard 6a 1327

thanks to you all emma philpots one L , was 29 when she died on 14th april 1933 she married horace henry price of worcester its finding her before that i have a problem great you are helping its really got my goat this one.xxx

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
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Philpott Emma Jane Bromyard 6a 561


That would make her 57 when she died??? Must be the wrong lady............ suppose we'll wait for Christine.