Genealogy Chat

Hi Rose,
Thanks for confirming re Poole.

I too have looked at passenger lists and haven't found anything. James & Florence went back to England from Canada about 1928. My mother Dorothy was their only child born in Toronto in 1925.
I have also looked at passenger lists for my mother when she went to NZ in 1946, and Florence (who had remarried at this stage) in about 1948. The lists show nothing which leaves me not very confident in them.
Thank you again.
Carole

Don't see anything on the passenger lists for James and Florence. Did your mother have any siblings?

Rose

Poole is the registration district, 5a is the volume and 229 is the page. You use these when you order a certificate.

This explains: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/distvolpage.html

Rose

Thank you Rose, you are wonderful.
What does "Poole 5a 229" mean, sorry about my ignorance.
I'm going offline now, will check back in later.
Carole

So could be one of these:

Births Jun 1887
Hassall James Salford 8d 120
Hassall James Nantwich 8a 388

Births Sep 1887
HASSALL James Chester 8a 394
HASSALL James Stone 6b 27

Rose

Found his death:

Deaths Sep 1936
Hassall James 49 Poole 5a 229

So he was born c1887.

Rose

Rose, I am working on an absolute outside chance. The marriage cert you sent re John Hassall had parents Henry Hassall and Clara Bennett. I put those names into my tree as parents of James and had quite a few matches. I am wondering if you or someone who has access to census records could look for me to see if in the 1901 census there is a Henry Hassall who had a son James???
If we keep plugging away we will come up with something eventually.
Thanks, Carole

Rose, my information is in Bournemouth either 1934 or 1936.
Thanks, Carole

Carole,

Do you know roughly where and when James died?

Rose

Thank you Linda re the reference for Florence's birth certificate. I will be in England in July and hope to retrace 'footsteps' of the family. I will also try to order certificates as I find them so that information is very good.

Carole

I have just come on line again (morning in Australia). Thank you again to everyone especially Whisky Soda. Yes my grandmothers parents names were Percival and Margaret and it is wonderful to have the records showing all the dates and other names. I will build on that. Interesting that she was registered as Florrie! No wonder I couldn't find anything when I put her in as Florence! Now I need to keep working on my ever elusive grandfather!

Carole

Thiis is a possibility for Margaret in 1881, the 2 lodgers, one is a hairdresser and the other is an Inland Revenue Officer, Margaret father is an out of work Collector.


Margaret E. Lofthouse
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 28 Lauderdale St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Preston
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
A.J. Henegan 24
Ellen Lofthouse 45
Jane Lofthouse 2
Margaret E. Lofthouse 6
William Lofthouse 53
William Lofthouse 10
Frederick Pope 22

Ann

and this woould be Margaret in 1891, there is the Miller link
Maggie Lofthouse
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Maggie Lofthouse 17
John Miller 33
Thomas Miller 68
Thomas Miller 11

Here is Percy's marriage to Margaret, but you will need to purchase Florence's birth cert to prove definately these are her parents
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Day Percival Fylde 8e 1161
Lofthouse Margaret Ellen Fylde 8e 1161

Ann

Ah
Here he is in 1891, using the name Allanson

Percy Allanson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Lytham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
Ecclesiastical parish: St john
Town: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Allanson 10
Eliza Allanson 11
Emily Allanson 37
Percy Allanson 16

Ann

Hi
This could be Percy in 1881, it doesnt give much away as he is the stepson.
There is a marriage in Jun qtr 1876 of Emily Day to Roger Allanson, there is a birth in 1874 of Percival Benson Day, which is a couple of years out on his age but is in the right are

Percival Day
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Step Son
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Lytham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 55 Clifton Street
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Allanson
Eliza Allanson 1
Emily Allanson 28
Margaret Allanson 3
Mary Elizabeth Allanson 4
William Rodger Allanson 24
Percival Day 6

I cannot see him in 1891, but will keep looking

Ann

1901 just in case it comes in handy later on

Name: Florrie Day
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Percy
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Lytham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lytham
Ecclesiastical parish: Lytham St Cuthbert
Town: Lytham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:15 Henry St

Registration district: Fylde
Sub registration district: Lytham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 96
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Day 3
Florrie Day 5
Margaret Day 26 Preston
Percy Day 26 Lytham
Thomas Miller 78 Lytham, listed as Uncle
Thomas W Miller 27 Lytham, listed as cousin

Percy is Head of household and is shown as greengrocer

I assume that yoou have the reference for Florence's birth

Florence Ellen Day
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Fylde
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 693

if you don't have her birth certificate you can buy it for £7 from the GRO, this will give you both parents names

I can't see her on the 1901 census. Do you have this?

Thank you Sylvia. Nice to know people out there are helping me.

Carole

Thank you Rose, could be a brother or relative? Gives me another name to search.

Carole