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Would a 1912 death cert tell me where my ancestor Margaret Roberts was born. The only info have is Wales.
I think I may have found a possible death in Greenwich 1912.

As far as I am aware, English death certs have never given place of birth, certainly I have never seen one.

Peter,

No none of that information appears on English death certs,



updated,---only on more modern ones does it state that info,but assume you mean earlier than.1970......

Thank you Keith.
It seems like that wont help me to trace where abouts in Wales she come from.
I'll have to find some other way.
Thanks again.
Pete.

Peter, I am going to correct that statement, I have literaly just recived a death cert from 1971, it does give place of birth and date of birth (but incorrect date on this one)
I do not know when the place of birth was first recorded on death certs though, sorry.

Hello Peter

DId she never marry? A marriage certificate would at least give you where she was living at the time and her father's name. You may be able to match them up in a census that way.

Alison

Place of birth was added to English death certificates in 1969.

Kath. x

Thank you all for your help.
Margaret was born in 1868 in Wales. She married Henry Lynch in lambeth in 1890.on the marriage cert her father is John Roberts ( a carpenter)and a Griffith Roberts is witness, I think he is a brother but I don't know if he is older or younger.
On all the cencus I have found all the Roberts were born Wales.
Pete.

1891 she gives place of birth as Llanbardarn Fawr Sth Wales

Sorry does not mean anything to me as not good on Welsh geography.


Class: RG12; Piece: 78; Folio 130; Page 5; GSU roll: 6095188.




1881 just wondering about this family
Name: Margaret Roberts
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanbadarnfawr, Cardiganshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Aberystwith
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Llangawsan
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub-registration district: Aberystwith
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Lewis 20
Griffith Ed. Roberts 19 occupation of carpenter
Jane Roberts 59 widow
Margaret Roberts 14

1871 poss
Name: Jane Roberts
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanbadarn Vawr, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Uchayndre
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Aberystwith
Sub-registration district: Aberystwith
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
David Danes 1
Mary Davis 69
Evan Evones 9
Jane Evones 36
Jane Ann Evones 7
Jane Roberts 45 widow
Margeat Roberts 3
William Evan Roberts 6

Hello Peter

If Glitterbaby has found the Margaret Roberts you're looking for, as far as I can see Llanbadarn Fawr is close to Aberystwyth, and there's a Margaret Roberts registered in the births in Jan/Feb/March 1869 in Aberystwyth, volume 11b page 75.

Alison

Thanks Alison for looking that up for me.
I have been trying to find cencus where John, margaret & griffith have all been on the same census and where John is a carpenter. the welsh 1881 cencus is now available free to look at so I have a couple to look at although Griffith is not on them. (my membership with Ancestry has ended)
I will look at the Aberystwyth birth you mentioned and maybe John will be born in the same area.
Thanks again Peter.

Here is Griffith


1871 Wales census.
Griffith Wm Griffith head 1795 Glandwr Cardiganshire occ gardener
Griffith Ed Robert( Roberts on image) grandson 1862 Compadarn Cardiganshire
Ann David( Davies on image) married dau 1822 Glandwr
Edward A Attwood son 1842 Aberystwyth occ mate sea fairing
Alfred son 1845 born as above
William Griffith Jones grandson1858 Llangawsan