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dutch

dutch Report 12 Jan 2006 12:23

hello to you all just to let you all no rathbone is from the mellors side of the family dating back to 1817,just thought to save time looking that it could be ada,s name,thank you all .joyce

dutch

dutch Report 11 Jan 2006 09:37

i dont know if this will help in any way but ada had children namely joseph ada may who died alice mary edith ada may(which was my mother) just thought i would add this in case it did help thank you joyce

dutch

dutch Report 11 Jan 2006 06:14

no sorry didnt know if she had any sisters or brothers

dutch

dutch Report 10 Jan 2006 20:25

ok thanks jess will leave it with you and see what pete comes up with thank you,joyce

The Bag

The Bag Report 10 Jan 2006 10:41

I've always wondered if her name was Rathbone (or where it came from) Why did she invent bassindale as a surname when she married then ~ i do wonder is she was Born Rathbone> Bassindale ( briefly even/step fathers?) then a Mellor , despite her declaring she was a spinster when she married mellor. leave it with us a bit Joyce, let Pete get his Gnashers back in later!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ aarrrgggghhhhh!! 1 Rathbone, Ada 1870 March Births Nantwich Cheshire 2 Rathbone, Ada 1871 December Births Northwich Cheshire 3 Rathbone, Ada 1872 September Births Northwich Cheshire 1871 this one is aged 2 Ada Rathbone abt 1869 Cheshire, England Daughter St Oswald Cheshire Alice Rathbone abt 1843 Gresford, Denbighshire, Wales Wife St Oswald Cheshire Alice Rathbone abt 1867 Cheshire, England Daughter St Oswald Cheshire Elizabeth Rathbone abt 1865 Cheshire, England Daughter St Oswald Cheshire George Rathbone abt 1842 Hatton Heath, Cheshire, England Head St Oswald Cheshire Mary J Rathbone abt 1870 Cheshire, England Daughter St Oswald Cheshire ================================ this one is Probably too old BUT was born manchester Ellen Hewitt abt 1852 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Servant Ardwick Lancashire >Ada Eliza Rathbone abt 1866 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Ardwick Lancashire Emmeline E Rathbone abt 1864 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Ardwick Lancashire Fredk Edwd Rathbone abt 1868 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Ardwick Lancashire James O Rathbone abt 1835 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Ardwick Lancashire Louise Annie Rathbone abt 1870 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Ardwick Lancashire Mary Rathbone abt 1835 Oldham, Lancashire, England Wife Ardwick Lancashire Sam Bleasby Rathbone abt 1862 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Ardwick Lancashire

dutch

dutch Report 10 Jan 2006 10:05

what do you think of this one all the mellors had rathbone in the middle name,i have found ada rathbone born 1870 dec nantwich cheshire,do you think that could have been her single name as her son was joseph rathbone mellor or im i barking up the wrong tree.joyce

dutch

dutch Report 10 Jan 2006 09:37

hello all im sorry to put you all thru this again and jess you have been astar trying so hard ,but realy does look as if she isnt or dosnt want to be found,but thank you all for your time and all the effort you all have put into this it was driving me mad so i can understand what all of you have been feeling.thank you joyce

The Bag

The Bag Report 9 Jan 2006 22:21

barking? barking?....must be to have started getting involved in this again. feel as thought i know the inside leg measurement of every Bl**dy BasseNdale/BasseNGdale/BassIngdale/ etc etc that ever walked this planet!

Zoe

Zoe Report 9 Jan 2006 22:20

Can I just say I had problems finding my grt grandma on the 1901 census it stated she was born in Leeds this was where she was living at the time. But she was actually born in London so censuses can be so out. I do hope you find what you are looking for Zoe x

Pete

Pete Report 9 Jan 2006 22:10

for what it's worth I think her status reads 'steam engineer's widow' Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying. Tree Wrong Up the barking!

The Bag

The Bag Report 9 Jan 2006 21:53

shuffled off elsewhere by 1871 though~ and i cant make out her status George N Barnett abt 1859 Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Boarder Holy Trinity Yorkshire Mary A Baxendale abt 1808 Kingston Upon Hulll, Yorkshire, England Head Holy Trinity Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Jordesen abt 1849 Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Daughter Holy Trinity Yorkshire George Jordesen abt 1839 Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Son Holy Trinity Yorkshire Mary Elizth Jordesen abt 1864 Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Holy Trinity Yorkshire ~1881~ step daughter hangs on though Mary Ann Beassindale abt 1808 Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Head 88 Portland St, Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Jordeson abt 1849 Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England Daughter 88 Portland St, Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire, England

Pete

Pete Report 9 Jan 2006 21:34

Janathan Bassindale is still in the brewery industry in the 1861 census! Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Jonathan Bassindale abt 1790 Bratoft, Lincolnshire, England Head Mary A Bassindale abt 1808 Hull, Holy Trinity Wife Elizabeth Jordeson abt 1849 Hull, St Mary Stepdaughter George S Jordeson abt 1839 Hull Sculcoates Step Son Son Of The Catter RG9/3596 Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Folio: 10 Page: 19

JackieInCardiff

JackieInCardiff Report 9 Jan 2006 21:21

Hi Jess, One of Joyce's original threads was called-- sorry to ask again-- It's on the Records board Jackie x

The Bag

The Bag Report 9 Jan 2006 21:03

Gawd! think i am getting desperate here! of course he has no occupation, But at least in B** manchester!! Ann Baxendale abt 1823 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Manchester Lancashire Ann Baxendale abt 1843 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Manchester Lancashire Helen Baxendale abt 1848 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Manchester Lancashire >>John Baxendale abt 1845 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Manchester Lancashire James Woodward abt 1819 Derbyshire, England Head Manchester Lancashire Sarah Woodward abt 1811 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Manchester Lancashire

The Bag

The Bag Report 9 Jan 2006 20:58

Pete how i wish I had saved the old thread, (or remembered what i called it) when everyone had a concerted effort for Joyce , about sept Time, i even have Jpegs of all the certs!!

Pete

Pete Report 9 Jan 2006 20:56

1841 Census for Lincolnshire has a Jonathan BASSINDALE - occupation Brewer! Ref HO107-0638 Image No 396 Folio No 31/7 Page No 6 Entry No 23 Location details County LINCOLNSHIRE Superintendent Registrar's District GLANFORD BRIGG Registrar's District BRIGG Enumeration District No 12 Parish KIRTON IN LINDSEY Last Name First Name Sex Age Birth County BASSINDALE JONATHAN M 50 LINCOLNSHIRE BASSINDALE HELLEN F 45 OUT OF COUNTY BASSINDALE WILLIAM M 8 OUT OF COUNTY BASSINDALE JOHN M 13 OUT OF COUNTY Address: KIRTON IN LINDSEY LINCOLNSHIRE Pete

Pete

Pete Report 9 Jan 2006 20:29

I agree, Jess. I have written the reasons why she is wrong (above) because I'll forget too - and when this question gets reposted in a month's time it might just stop one of attempting to reinvert the wheel I suppose a long laborious search through directories for the Manchester area may just locate a beer selling John, but there is nothing in the directories on the Historic Directories website that fits the bill. Pete

The Bag

The Bag Report 9 Jan 2006 20:19

Pete, Ive only 'done them' because otherwise i look and forget what i have looked at and why i have dismissed it. cant find the louisa with grandfather in 1871 , back in 1861 anyway!!

Pete

Pete Report 9 Jan 2006 19:16

Oh Jess, You've done them too! The more I look at Johnson the less convinced I am about him. He is the only one with any vague connection with the brewery trade and has father named John but no obvious connection to Ada. What about the Ada born 1865. BASSINDALE Ada. Qtr: March Dist: Thorne Vol 9c Page 566 I expect that this is the one shown as daugher of Robert and Emma in the 1871 census. Hasn't she been 'flogged to death' as an option? Ada Bassindale abt 1865 Wroot, Lincolnshire, Daughter Emma Bassindale abt 1846 Hatfield, Yorkshire, England Wife Frank Bassindale abt 1869 Finningley, Nottinghamshire, Son Fred Bassindale abt 1867 Blaxton, Yorkshire, Son George Bassindale abt 1871 Finningley, Nottinghamshire, Son Robert Bassindale abt 1842 Belton, Lincolnshire, Head John Kirby abt 1842 Newcastle, Staffordshire, Lodger So what is stopping this one from being Samuel's wife. Reason 1 According marriage cert born c1869. She wouldn't be the first girl to knock a couple of years off so her old man thinks he's wedding a young maid! Reason 2. Place of birth according to 1901 census is wrong - and not even close. Reason 3. Father's name according to marriage cert is John. Why would she want to say the wrong name. If her father was Robert, he was still alive at the time of the marriage. However no record of a beer selling John BASSINDALE has been found so far. So what happens to 1865 Ada then????? Pete

The Bag

The Bag Report 9 Jan 2006 18:52

Dont remeber johnson bassindale ~ wonder how we missed him! will take him back and see what occurs..... mind you, according to Ada when she married he should be dead! ~~1901~~ Ethel Bassindale abt 1891 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Everson J Bassindale abt 1892 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Son Gainsborough Lincolnshire Johnson Bassindale abt 1856 Blaston, Lincolnshire, England Head Gainsborough Lincolnshire Lizzie Bassindale abt 1885 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Maude Bassindale abt 1887 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Milly Bassindale abt 1894 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Thomas Robinson abt 1848 Epworth, Lincolnshire, England Boarder Gainsborough Lincolnshire occupation: general carrier drayman (?) i think ==================================== ~~1891~~ Bassindale, Alice M abt 1887 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Bassindale, Annie E abt 1885 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Bassindale, Edith abt 1888 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Bassindale, Emma abt 1862 Misterton, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Gainsborough Lincolnshire Bassindale, Ethel abt 1890 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Bassindale, Johnson abt 1860 Blachstone Grange, Yorkshire, England Head Gainsborough Lincolnshire address 1a Coffee tavern yard ...a groom ======================================== ~~1881~~ a servant.... View Record Johnson Bassendall abt 1857 Black Stowe, Yorkshire, England Servant Silver Street, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England umarried groom / servant ~~1871 ~~ is he going to be at home with a sister ada? can see him anywhere ============================= ~~1861~~ Argggggghhh Wroot!! Ann Elizabeth Bassendale abt 1859 Batemans Lidge, Yorkshire, England Daughter Blaxton Yorkshire Elizabeth Bassendale abt 1818 Westwoodside, Lincolnshire, England Wife Blaxton Yorkshire John Bassendale abt 1818 Belton, Lincolnshire, England Head Blaxton Yorkshire Johnson Bassendale abt 1856 Batemans Lidge, Yorkshire, England Son Blaxton Yorkshire Thomas Bassendale abt 1853 Wroot, Lincolnshire, England Son Blaxton Yorkshire William Bassendale abt 1850 Wroot, Lincolnshire, England Son Blaxton Yorkshire