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Looks like Albert Daniel went to Australia to be a farmer.

Mr A D Harverson
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr A D Harverson
Gender: Male
Departure Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1888
Departure Date: 21 Sep 1911
Departure Port: England
Ship Name: Demosthenes
Shipping Line: Aberdeen Line
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia


A tree on Ancestry says he married Ruby Diamond Herdman, on 23 Sep 1916 at St Michael Church, Surry Hills, New South Wales, Australia.

Ruby Diamond Harverson
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Ruby Diamond Harverson
Death Date: 31 May 1976
Cemetery: Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Matraville, Randwick City, New South Wales, Australia
Has Bio?: N



With Albert Daniel at Wise Street, South Randwick:

Ruby Diamond Harverson
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Ruby Diamond Harverson
Gender: Female
Electoral Date: 1930
Electoral Place: Maroubra, South Sydney, New South Wales, Australia



Albert Daniel Harverson
in the New South Wales, Australia, Index to Deceased Estate Files, 1859-1958
Name: Albert Daniel Harverson
Residence Place: Maroubra Junction
Death Date: 8 Jun 1953
Death Place: New South Wales, Australia
Occupation: Caretaker
File Number: B 84145


Albert Daniel Harverson
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Albert Daniel Harverson
Death Date: 8 Jun 1953
Cemetery: Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Matraville, Randwick City, New South Wales, Australia
Has Bio?: N

Alice May's DOB:

Alice May Harverson
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1923
Name: Alice May Harverson
Gender: Female
Record Type: Birth
Birth Date: 23 Apr 1895
Birth Poor Law Union: Southwark
Birth Place: Southwark, Southwark, England
Father: Alfred Harverson
Mother: Ellen Harverson
Register Type: Parish Register



Another childhood death:

Edith Mabel Harverson
 in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edith Mabel Harverson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1895
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1d
Page: 458


John Ernest survived into adudlthood - but probably only just:

John Harverson
in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name: John Harverson
Gender: Male
Age: 3
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1889
Admission Date: 1 May 1893
School: Flint Street School
Father: Alfred Harverson
Notes: Flint Street School (0313) opened in or before 1873. Girls and Boys Departments were remodelled in 1873. Closed or reorganised in 194-

Address: 4 Hillery (?) Road.


John Ernest Harverson
 in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Ernest Harverson
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Male
Birth Place: England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Royal National Orthopoedic Hospital, 234 Great Portland Street W
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Builder's Labourer
Registration District Number: 7
Sub-registration District: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 21-24
Piece: 536

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John Harverson
 in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Harverson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Uxbridge, Middlesex, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1912
Inferred Death Place: Middlesex, United Kingdom
Volume: 3a
Page: 37a

Workhouse, with mother and 3 older siblings, Edith, John and Albert

Name: Alice May Harverson
Admission Age: 3/12
Record Type: Admission
Birth Date: 1895
Admission Date: 10 Jul 1895
Admission Place: Southwark, Southwark, London, England

Name: Alice May Harverson
Age: 0
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1895
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1d
Page: 454





Name: Ellen Elizth. Haverson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Alfred Haverson
Mother: Ellen Susan Haverson
Gender: Female
Where born: Southw, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Southwark St George Martyr
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 11 London St
Registration District: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 528
Folio: 41
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Haverson 21
Ellen Susan Haverson 21
Ellen Elizth. Haverson 1

Name: Ellen Elizabeth Harverson
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Amersham
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 1647
Name
Ellen Elizabeth Harverson
Thomas Willoughby

Name: Ellen Elizabeth Willoughby
Death Date: 23 Apr 1972
Death Place: London
Probate Date: 12 Jun 1972
Probate Registry: London

At the 1900 marriage of Christopher Cyster and Ellen Harverson, she's a widow, but gives her father's name as John Essex Harverson.

But -
In 1901 (census posted earlier) she's listed as Harverson, widow - not Cyster -
and Christopher's apparently living in the same household, listed as single.
He didn't die until 1953.

This will be her birth:

ESSEX, ELLEN SUSAN mmn MASON
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in NEWINGTON Volume 01D Page 193

Ellen Essex
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938
Name: Ellen Essex
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1857
Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1878
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Father: John Essex
Spouse: Alfred Haverson
Register Type: Parish Register

Alfred died 1896.


Children of that marriage:

HARVERSON, ELLEN ELIZABETH mmn ESSEX
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 95

HARVERSON, ALBERT DANIEL mmn ESSEX
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 184

HARVERSON, JOHN ERNEST mmn ESSEX
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR LONDON Volume 01D Page 91

HARVERSON, HAROLD APELLES mmn ESSEX
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR LONDON Volume 01D Page 17

HARVERSON, ALICE MAY mmn ESSEX
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR LONDON Volume 01D Page 124

HARVERSON, EDITH MABEL mmn ESSEX
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR LONDON Volume 01D Page 90


No twins - but a son's death:

Deaths Mar 1892   (>99%)
Harverson  Harold Apelles  1  St. Saviour  1d 17  

Maybe the twins were miscarriages rather than births.



Then the birth of your grandmother, with mmn given as Harverson, rather than Essex:

CYSTER, LOUISA CHRISTINA mmn HARVERSON
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 815

You can check for births and deaths quite easily to verify the stories about lost babies - or not, as the case may be.

And you should also look at the site to which I gave the link………if only to satisfy yourself.

I wonder if my mum was told the wrong date, she was told the story of the murder by an old lady who knew the Cysters well. Maybe its got a bit mixed jup over the years.
Thanks for looking that up, I think my mum would rather it was a mistake, she was upset to hear it.

i was told that she lost two sets of twins and a boy when she was married to Alfred Harverson. After he died she remarried Christopher Cyster and had a daughter, that daughter was my mums, mother.

A fascinating website!

However, none of the men hanged in 1888 had murdered a burglar.
The nearest was the elderly Samuel Crowther who murdered someone stealing fruit from his trees.

The name Cyster doesn't appear anywhere on that site - not 1888 nor any other year.

That’s an interesting find.

http://www.britishexecutions.co.uk/search.php?year=1888&subpage=year&termRef=1888&time=1669731517

ErikaH -

Oops - I meant to say they didn't have any sons.

Jenny
Re your pm. It looks as though Argyllgran has already looked at the British Newspaper Archives.

For inof: you can do a free search - the results can be quite garbled but it can lead you to a specific edition.

AG


Check Louisa Christina’s birth - posted at 17.49 yesterday

This all looks like my mum's, mum's family, it all fits.
I think it's a case of Chinese whispers, it's got mixed up as its been passed down. Not sure what to do with the murder case because there was a detailed story that went with it. It had come from a neighbour who knew the family, she told my mum, I suppose she could of got the date wrong.
Thank you so much for all your hard work.

Christopher Cyster and Ellen Susan Harverson did not have any children.


If some earlier Cyster was hanged for murder, I don't see anything about it in the British Newspaper Archive - though could be badly mistranscribed.

1911 Census For England & Wales
Orchard Grove Chalfont St Peter Buckinghamshire, Chalfont St Peter, Buckinghamshire, England

Thomas Willoughby Head Married Male 25 1886 Tiler's labourer Chalfont St Peters Bucks
Ellen Elizabeth Willoughby Wife Married Female 30 1881 - London Newington
Harold William Harverson Son before marriage Married Male 5 1906 - Seer Green Bucks
Edward Thomas Willoughby Son - Male 2 1909 - Bucks Amersham
Louisa Christinia Cyster Sister in law Single Female 9 1902 - Seer Freen Bucks


Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
Harverson Ellen Elizabeth Amersham 3a 1647
WILLOUGHBY Thomas Amersham 3a 1647

1939 Register
, Hillingdon, Hayes and Harlington U.D., Middlesex, England

William J Wicks 29 Dec 1900 Male Radio & Telev Service Enginee Married 82 1
Christina L Wicks 05 Aug 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 82 2
Irene E ? Farr 18 Mar 1920 Female Cinema Usherette Single 82 3
George W Farr 20 Nov 1921 Male Oil Works Filler Single 82 4

CYSTER, LOUISA CHRISTINA HARVERSON
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 815


Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Wicks Irene E C Cyster Uxbridge 3a 72

SO.........................this is the link to your other thread about WICKS


Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Cyster Christina L Wicks Uxbridge 3a 157
Wicks James W Oyster Uxbridge 3a 157

BALDWIN, ERNEST CLAUDE HEDGE
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in WATFORD UNION Volume 03A Page 375


BALDWIN, LEMOND WALLACE CYSTER -
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in AMERSHAM Volume 03A Page 457