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Central Islip State Hospital was a psychiatric hospital.

If that's the correct man, he was obviously a long-term patient - hence Ethel's possible face-saving as ErikaH suggests, as mental illness wasn't talked about in those days..

Thanks, interesting that he could be in hospital

In 1920, Ethel was said to be widowed......................but that could be a 'face-saver'

Just a maybe , and only because I don't see his death 1910-1915 .

BUT there are lots of men of that name and approx YOB:


Harry Novick
in the New York, U.S., State Census, 1915
Name: Harry Novick
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birth Place: Russia
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Residence Place: Islip, Suffolk [ Central Islip State Hospital ]
Relationship: Patient
Color or Race: White
Assembly District: 02
House Number: 960
Line Number: 9
Page number: 50
Household Members Ag



Harry Novick
in the New York, U.S., Death Index, 1852-1956
Name: Harry Novick
Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1885
Death Date: 14 Aug 1951
Death Place: Islip, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 52301

Harry Nowack seems to have disappeared from the scene between c1910 and 1915, when Ethel and her children are living with her parents.

Still with Ethel in 1910:

Harry Novick
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Harry Novick [Harry Mevick]
Age in 1910: 26
Birth Date: 1884 [1884]
Birthplace: Russia
Home in 1910: Bronx Assembly District 34, New York, New York, USA
Street: Third Ave
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1893
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ethel Novick
Father's Birthplace: Russia
Mother's Birthplace: Russia
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Printer
Industry: Shop
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Papers
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 4
Out of Work: Y
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 36
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
Harry Novick 26 Head
Ethel Novick 24 Wife
Rosie Novick 2 Daughter
Abraham Goldberg 19 Boarder

????????

Name: Jack Nowack
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 9 Apr 1933
Marriage Place: Harrison, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 9717

Son Jacob also known as Jack:

Jack Nowack
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Jack Nowack [Jack Novack]
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1910
Birth Place: Bronx, New York [Bronx|]
Death Date: 5 May 2000
Claim Date: 8 Nov 1975
Father: Harry Novack
Mother: Ethel Stein
SSN: 091013350
Relationship of Signature: Not signed, SSA prepared.
Notes: 03 Dec 1975: Name listed as JACK NOWACK


Or actually born as Jack ???

Jack I Novack
in the New York, New York, U.S., Birth Index, 1910-1965
Name: Jack I Novack
Birth Date: 18 Oct 1910
Birth Place: Bronx, New York City, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 8786

I only just noticed that you asked for 'm' of Ethel ....................have some thought for people's eyes, please ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

You've already been given 1920 and 1930 census records for Ethel......................and 1920 for the children of her marriage

I've just posted the marriage.

Sometimes info simply isn't available.........................

Harry Nowack
in the New York, New York, U.S., Extracted Marriage Index, 1866-1937
Name: Harry Nowack
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 Oct 1906
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, USA
Spouse: Ethel Stein
Certificate Number: 24680

on this site, family search, ancestry & on us census, it's hard not knowing correct spelling

Where have you looked?

Now looking for m of Ethel b 1888 census said 1906 to a Harry Nowack/Novak/ Novick (all different spellings) he was b 1884 re census, they had 2 children Rose/Rosie 1908 & Jacob 1911 of Bathgate Ave Bronx NY
Have try all spellings but no joy

All stayed in New York area except one which went to Florida, i have traced that line no luck

Did the children you know about all remain in New York? Widowed mothers often go to live with one of their children, which can sometimes take them away from their home area.

Harry did die in 1946 in the Bronx NY (from SSN), can find no death for his wife, have tried all her used names, i would say she died in 1950s, no records in Bronx or any New York cemetery

In his OP, Ian said Harry died 1946 - but I can't see any record of that.

Four trees on Ancestry claim date of death was 25 March 1946 - but no place or proof.

None of them has a date of death for his wife.

OK....................

The 6 on 1910 census, plus Ethel (Novak) and one other

There would have been no legitimate births between 1902/3 and 1905

Do you know when Harry and/or his wife died? The obit might hold useful details