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Grandfather Frank Vary
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Alan | Report | 16 Nov 2015 13:52 |
Thank you all for your kind comments. All this is taking time to settle in, and makes me wonder how my grandfather survived. Silviaincanada, it seems you had the same experience as my mother, (not knowing anything of your grandfather). |
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SylviaInCanada | Report | 14 Nov 2015 23:05 |
my father and his siblings hardly drank .......... a glass at Christmas was the most any of them had! |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 14 Nov 2015 22:20 |
and may I add that my own grandmother's life changed enormously for the better when my grandfather died at 65 - she lived for almost 35 years more, deserving every minute without the drinking, gambling and adultery. A while back I was trying to figure out whether he might have married bigamously while he was in the military ... my grandmother had lost track of him at the time ... or (as it turned out) it was his widowed same-named father remarrying in his middle age and we had just never known that ... my mum said she had no idea but having known my grandfather, she would not have put anything past him. |
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SylviaInCanada | Report | 14 Nov 2015 21:52 |
Alan ................ |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 14 Nov 2015 21:00 |
Alan I would seldom jump to judgment on any of our ancestors whose lives, and especially the circumstances they lived in, we cannot really understand |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Nov 2015 18:37 |
I agree- It is impossible to judge Ellen without having experienced the hardships she was facing. There were not support systems available then. |
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Rambling | Report | 14 Nov 2015 13:08 |
Alan I think that's the right way to look at it, a poor start in life perhaps and a hand to mouth existence, turning to drink to make it bearable. Most of us have found similar among our ancestors. |
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Alan | Report | 14 Nov 2015 11:57 |
I'm sorry to say, but it looks more and more, like my Great Grandmother was not a nice person. The only thing l can say in her defence is, we do not know the circumstances which pushed her to do any of this. :-( :-S |
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Mary | Report | 13 Nov 2015 19:38 |
The above seems to be the same Ellen as her husband Thomas had mum Mary and here she is 1901 |
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AustinQ | Report | 13 Nov 2015 16:56 |
Perhaps also connected? |
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Alan | Report | 13 Nov 2015 12:37 |
I am sitting here with my mother (Frank's daughter), we have been going through all the post's. Mum and l agree with alot of what everyone has written from what we already know. We would like some time to go through again and then reply in more detail. Mum does remember Forster Road and Wilford Road as mention also know as Banghole. She remember someone having a horse in their front room at one stage. Mum lived in St Saviours at the time, and was at school with some of the children that lived in the aforementioned roads. The school being Elmwood School. Thank's for the information about Frank entry into the Military. We also doubt that Thomas was Frank's father. The mystery continue, although alittle clearer. |
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SylviaInCanada | Report | 12 Nov 2015 19:21 |
Ancestry is exactly where the information came from .......... |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 12 Nov 2015 17:43 |
that's it AustinQ - and that is all the image says, it is just a list of enrolments so the image does not provide any more info |
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AustinQ | Report | 12 Nov 2015 16:43 |
This may have been where the information came from: |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 12 Nov 2015 16:19 |
eek ... read back through the thread, was it Rambling Rose who first consulted the papers? I believe they are at FindMyPast and I looked at them there - he gave his next of kin as ... I forget whether it was Ellen Vary or 'mother', at Foster Rd |
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Alan | Report | 12 Nov 2015 15:34 |
We have applied for Frank Military Records so we can establish when / where he joined the army, and who he has entered as next of kin. JoonieCloonie could you give me some indication how you know his military papers suggest he knew his mother was living at the time he enrolled, as you say in your post please. |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 12 Nov 2015 15:26 |
and note that I posted full info about the Thomas Vary + Alice Vickery family earlier in the thread including their two! marriages |
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Mary | Report | 12 Nov 2015 13:38 |
1871 George Street Kensington |
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Rambling | Report | 11 Nov 2015 22:02 |
lol sorry Joonie, I've been dipping in and out and missed it, doh! 'navvy' certainly makes a lot more sense. |
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JoonieCloonie | Report | 11 Nov 2015 21:57 |
posted that on page 2 Rose :-) - actually - not navy - |
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