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trying hard as a newbie but all the ppl wiv links in trees don't seem t be using the site any more or ill type in searches and some ppl can't not be found, iv tried the yorkshire website ppl told me to use and nothings come back trying but need some tips or help advice all my relatives seem to use the same names i have about 4 florries or florrances and toms :-0

Adelle, if you have already asked for help, please could you bring the threads back up on the boards so that people can see who you have asked about and what replies you got?

To find your threads, click on My Threads on the drop-down menu underneath Community at the top of the page, and then click on your thread title. Type something like "help still needed" in the reply box, then click on Submit and that will put your thread back up to the top of the board.

my last thread was in the wrong place keep getting told off :-S

If you like to tell us some of the names you're trying to research, preferably with place-names and some idea of year, then perhaps we can help.

We are here to help Adelle - there is no need to struggle on your own.

Just give us some details on what you are trying to find and we will do our best to help.

Dea Xxx

were do i post quests or ask for help am i in the right place if my thread was in the wrong place before is it ok to start a new one .....
john entwistle hull 1822
robert george no date married isabella hull leeds holbeck
gorge robert no date marrid marry ellen leeds holbeck
they had 11 children but i can't find a place were i can find all there names 8 children serviced
james 1904 married lily leads ford she dies ages 33 leeds
its just siblings I'm so mixed up any advice on were i can get a clear list of children sorry if this isn't a very clear record its mainly robert and gorges children sorry for spelling

Hi Adelle,

You only had 5 posts listed to you so you can't have done too much damage by posting in the wrong place - I don't know where your other thread is so let's just start again here and if anyone tells you off then ignore them !

You are in the right place now ! :-D ;-)

I will take a look at the names you have posted.

Dea Xxx

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1343224

(could it be above perhaps, for background info.)

Chris :)

Previous threads by Adelle;

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1343224

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1343331

george and mary ellen was ellen her last name or middle
george born in hull 1856 son william 1897
florrie albert james alice

who did alice marry
and florrie
was florrie short for florance 11 children 8 serviving sorry about spelling I'm using a macbook and i don't no how to use the spell check :-)

thanx dea its so hard to find your way around the site when you don't have a clue and your using a strange laptop just trying to find out about the siblings should help me get on track all the names are very smiler to the other side off the family I'm reserching the leadsfords who married james entwistle, feels like evryones an alice or a florrie or florrance or mary tom james
in both families they seem to enjoy nameing each other after each other

Having difficulty getting a starting point here - can you clarify the details please?

You have a John Entwistle born in Hull in 1882 - is that correct?

Were Robert George and George Robert both sons of his?

Robert George Entwistle married an Isabella in Hull or Leeds ? - do you know when (ish) ?

George Robert Entwistle married an Ellen in Leeds (again - when(ish)??

Who was James ? - When did his wife Lily die aged 33 ??

Do you have any of these people on any census that we can take a look at just so that we can make a start?

Take a deep breath and look to see what facts you actually have and post them for us.

Dea Xxx

john 1822

robert george son of john 1868 (hull)

roberts son george robert marrid mary elln dont no if thats her last name or middle (leeds holdback)

(leeds holdback) james son or george married lily leadsford she died 33 years old mum nanas Barbara mum

lily born 1906
no robert and gorge were father and son
isabella and robert marrid in hull lived in leeds holdback most likely

I hope no-one will mind but I have taken all the info from the other threads and posted it below so as to keep it all together: (will have to do it over 2 posts as it is too long).:


adelle Report 5 Aug 2014 20:50

I'm finding it hard to track siblings I'm looking at the entwistle family holdback leeds James 1904 this dad george his dad robert 1868 his dad john 1822 but they have soooo meany brothers and sisters and very ones got the same names is there any were you can just get a full list of all the children so new to this than x %3A-S

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adelle Report 2 Aug 2014 18:58

George entwistle 1885 married to mary ellen 1867 think she was or went def ,george is my nanas grandad her dad was james entwistle 1904 there all from leeds holdback traces t hull maybe just a bit lost wanting to find out about george any help would be ace x %3A-D

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Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:13

Welcome to the boards Adelle,

Just as a starting point this appears to be James with parents

1911 England Census about James Entwistle
Name: James Entwistle
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 28 Mary St Holbeck Leeds
Occupation: School
Registration district: Holbeck
Registration District Number: 502
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 27204
Household Members:
Name Age
George Entwistle 55
Mary Ellen Entwistle 44
William Entwistle 14
Florrie Entwistle 12
James Entwistle 7
Albert Entwistle 5
Alice Entwistle 2
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Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:20

George and Mary Ellen had been married 28 years, 11 children born ,8 surviving

This 'may' be the marriage as they moved around a bit ( George was a hawker) children boen in Leeds Hull and the last one Alice in Bradford

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)

ENTWISTLE George Sculcoates 9d 227
Peck Mary Ellen Sculcoates 9d 227
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Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:27

I think this may be them in 1901, the children are all listed as Entwistle, I think it's possible that the enumerator mistook the name 'Mary Ellen' and listed her and george as Allen. ?

1901 England Census about William Entwistle
Name: William Entwistle
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Joseph Allen
Mother: Mary Allen
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4485
Folio: 132
Page Number: 43
Household schedule number: 265
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Allen 36
Mary Allen 36
Charles Entwistle 17
George Entwistle 5
Annie Entwistle 12
Edith Entwistle 10
William Entwistle 4
Flossie Entwistle 1 ? Florrie?
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As George was born in Hull, this could be him in 1871


1871 England Census about George Entwistle
Name: George Entwistle
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Entwistle - Born Worksop, Notts
Mother's name: Isabella Entwistle - born Leeds
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: Brewery Field
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 4521
Folio: 73
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Entwistle 46
Isabella Entwistle 44
John W Entwistle 32 - Leeds. Although it says 'son' he's too old!
Isabella Entwistle 19 - Suds?
James Entwistle 17 - Halifax
George Entwistle 14 - Hull
Sarah H Entwistle 6 - Leeds (says grandaughter!!)

Researching:
I am NOT an employee of GR, just a paying member. Any advice, guidance or suggestion offered is given in good faith.
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Dea x

Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:32


1891 England Census about George Entwistle
Name: George Entwistle
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3670
Folio: 93
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
George Entwistle 33
Mary Ellen 25
Charles Wm Ellen 7
George Robt Ellen 5
Annie Ellen 3
Ada Ellen 11/12
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Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:35

George changed jobs in census, in 1891 he was "fitter machine" but I can't make out the word following that.
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Robert and Isabella's marriage?

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1835
Marriage Place: Saint Peter,Leeds,York,England
Spouse: Isabella Wilson
FHL Film Number: 0918390-392

Researching:
I am NOT an employee of GR, just a paying member. Any advice, guidance or suggestion offered is given in good faith.
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Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:39

George's father Robert in 1881, now a widower

1881 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relationship to Head: Father in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 15 William St
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tool Smith At Works
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4497
Folio: 33
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
James Entwistle 26
Ann Entwistle 28
Matilda Entwistle 4
Robert Entwistle 64
Joseph Shawsmith 38
Maria Shawsmith 33
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Gwyn in Kent
Gwyn in Kent Report 2 Aug 2014 19:45

Rose

Maybe 1891 entry reads ..Fitter Machine Shop.....?

Gwyn
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Rambling Rose
Rambling Rose Report 2 Aug 2014 19:47

Could well be Gwyn %3A-%29
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Adelle - digressing slightly.

As most of the Entwistles were B,M or D in Yorkshire, you may find this site useful for events from 1837 when civil registration began

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Although Rose has given you the probably GRO reference for George and Mary Ellens's marriage in 1883, the above site gives a few more details without having to buy the certificate

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1883
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At
ENTWISTLE George PECK Mary E All Saints, Sculcoates Hull

Rearranging to make it easier to read (it is clear on the YorksBMD site)

Surname ENTWISTLE Forename(s) George
Surname PECK Forename(s) Mary E
Church / Register Office All Saints, Sculcoates
Registers At Hull

Local reg office have their reference numbers which are different from the GRO index The one for the above marriage is HAS/23/166

Researching:
I am NOT an employee of GR, just a paying member. Any advice, guidance or suggestion offered is given in good faith.
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This could be Robert's baptism

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Robert Entwisle
Name: Robert Entwisle
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1813
Baptism Place: Worksop,Nottingham,England
Father: John Entwisle
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 504068, 504070, 504543

Dea x

So Adelle - we have an awful lot of info here.

You say that you are doing this for your nana - Could you tell us who your nana was and all the details you have on her and then perhaps it would be best if we just work back from there and connect all the above info as we go ?

We can then add in all the other details on other family members.

Otherwise, by looking at everyone at the same time it just gets very confused.

Dea x

Good idea Dea :-) I hope Adelle did not feel I was telling her off, just trying to suggest that if all the info is together it makes it much easier for people to help :-)

daughter of james entwistle and lily leadsford Barbra entwistle born in leeds in the 1930s
so explain what do you do were do you start after you find a birth certificate were do you go then ??

It may help to know that James' sister Florence (Florrie in the 1911) had no middle name

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
Entwistle Florence Sculcoates 9d 183

That will possibly eliminate some of the marriages that could be hers.