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Thanks again for all the in fo Potty

First note that adult (15+) ages were supposed to be rounded down ro a mult of 5 in 1841.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
Fitzpatrick Mary E Halifax 9a 1018
Harling Sarah J Halifax 9a 1018
Lyons John H Halifax 9a 1018
Stott Samuel H Halifax 9a 1018

It's always worth supplementing FreeBMD's (or whoever's) transcription of the GRO index with the local index, if one's available online - see:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
In particular, http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1918
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STOTT Samuel Henry GOODMAN Clara Elizabeth Seacombe, St Paul Wirral C10/5/133

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1933
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STOTT Wilfred David ROE Hilda Maud Birkenhead, Civil Marriage Wirral BW/158/111


Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
STOTT Brenda W Roe Birkenhead 8a 628

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1936 to 1938
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
STOTT Brenda Winifred Birkenhead North Wirral ROE BKN/3/37


As you can see from the above examples, the two indexes contain difft info.
However, the entries one will receive certified copies of should contain the same info (up to transcription errors).
The main difference is the local index must give info on which rego one can find the entry in.
In the case of marrs, this would identify the church (although the local ref might not be explicitly decoded, although Cheshire's is).
Pre-1898, non-conformists (excl jews and quakers) weren't authorized to keep official marr regos, so a marr in a non-conformist church would need the registrar to attend so the couple could sign his official register.
Post-1898, non-conformists were authorized to keep official regos (except for RCs who only got authorized in the 1980s).

For births & deaths, the local index must identify which subdistrict rego has the event.
So we can see Brenda was rego'ed in the newly created Birkenhead North subdistrict, rather than, say, the Tranmere subdistrict which was also in Birkenhead RD.

Hi Potty
l have just found the same info on non conformist records. will give the site another go. Have a nice weekend. Brenda

Your Moses would seem to be the one in the 1841 posted on 3rd June by Rootgatherer. There are several trees on ancestry that have him married to Elizabeth Clegg and although there is a marriage in 1817 at Elland for that couple, there is really no way to prove it is the correct Moses.

Hi Potty
Sorry for duplicate message. PC playing up. Thread from me on June 30th about Moses I realise checking dates he is not my Moses. Silly me.
Brenda.

Hi Potty. Thanks again. Threads are back. How can I find details of Moses parents etc. I have tried. Can't get his birth or marriage certificates as I have no details to go on.
Brenda

Hi Potty. Thanks again. Threads are back. How can I find details of Moses parents etc. I have tried. Can't get his birth or marriage certificates as I have no details to go on.
Brenda

Nudged for Brenda.

Thank you Potty

Brenda, will pm the baptism image.

Hi Potty is it possible to get a scaned image of photo ?

Thanks Potty.
especially the photo. I did an 1841 census for Moses Stott and he came up as his birth year 1826 and his mother Mary Stott born 1801. have no more details of her and no mention of a husband. She had two daughters Harriet and Ann.
thank you so much for your help.
Kind regards
Brenda

Samuel's baptism (Holly Well Green is where the family is living in 1841); Moses signature is on the image:

West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985
Name:Samuel Stott
Birth Date:5 Jun 1825
Event Type:Baptism
Father:Moses Stott
Mother:Elizabeth Stott
Baptism Date:3 Jul 1825
Archive Location:Wakefield
Parish or Chapel:Holy Well Green
Reel Number:
Gawthorpe, Ossett, Robertown, Snydale, South Elmsall, Wakefield

That tree could be correct - this 1841 is for Stainland (the place on the image is unclear but if you look at page 1 of the images it is for Stainland. The marriage cert would confirm:


1841 England Census
Samuel Stott

Age:15
Estimated birth year:abt 1826
Where born:Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Halifax
Hundred:Morley
County/Island:Yorkshire

Moses Stott 45 - weaver
Elizbth Stott 45
Charlotte Stott 15
Samuel Stott 15
Joseph Stott 13
Martha Stott 11
Harriet Stott 8

Samuel & Harriet with her parents in 1851 - it is Harriet on the image:


Name:Samuel Stott
Age:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1826
Relation:Son-in-law
Spouse's Name:Marie A Stott
Gender:Male
Where born:Stainland, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Stainland with Old Lindley
Ecclesiastical parish:St Andrew
County/Island:Yorkshire

David Haigh 66
Martha Haigh 65
Luke Haigh 12
Samuel Stott 25 - Brussel Weaver - Carpet, which doesn't tie in with the occupation on the 1861
Marie A Stott 23

There is a tree on Ancestry which Harriet as Harriet Haigh and Samuel's parents as Moses and Elizabeth but has no proof.

Is this Samuel in 1861:


1861 England Census
Saml Stott

Age:35
Estimated birth year:1826
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Harriot Stott
Gender:Male
Where born:Stainland, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish:Stainland and Old Lindley
Ecclesiastical parish:Stainland
Town:Stainland
County/Island:Yorkshire

Saml Stott 35 , farmer
Harriot Stott 33
David Stott 6
William Henry Stott 3
Mary Ann Stott 2/12
Edwin Stott 19 - Nephew

All born Staniland

Thanks Gins
Could be his parents. I will try and find info to tie him in with them.Many thanks.
Brenda

Would this be Sam



West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985


Name:Samuel Stott

Birth Date:5 Jun 1825

Event Type:Baptism

Father:
Moses Stott

Mother:
Elizabeth Stott

Baptism Date:3 Jul 1825

Archive Location:Wakefield

Parish or Chapel:Holy Well Green

Reel Number:
Gawthorpe, Ossett, Robertown, Snydale, South Elmsall, Wakefield; WC36

Hi friends
I am now trying to find the parents of my great great grandparents Sami Stott born in 1826 , he was married to Harriet. can you give me any tips?
Kind regards
Brenda.

Good luck with your search