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You could see if the baptism register was more informative than the brief transcript I already posted. The baptism may well be in the collection at the British Library, full details not transcribed on line as baptism less than 100 yrs ago:

First name(s) Edward Saxton
Last name Tully
Baptism year 1924
Birth year 1924
Place Secunderabad
Presidency Madras
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name Tully
Baptism date 1924
Birth date 1924
Archive reference N-2-135
Folio 98
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras
Record set British India Office births & baptisms

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/home.aspx

If you can't get to the British Library, they do a search for a fee, and can provide a certified copy of the baptism for £18.

"We offer a remote ecclesiastical search service for enquirers who are unable to visit our reading room. The Ecclesiastical Returns (copy registers of births/baptisms, marriages and burials of European and Eurasian Christians in India, Burma and territories controlled from India) held in this collection are not complete. We estimate that 20-30% of the returns are missing. Therefore with any search conducted there is the possibility of failure. Certified copies, i.e.. an official copy with the seal of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, can also be provided. The fees for Ecclesiastical Searches and Certificates are as follows:
£36 per search for enquirers of EU countries (includes VAT)
£30 per search for enquirers of non-EU countries
£18 per certified copy"

I think the info from the baptism transcript can be reformatted as N/2/135/98
as required by the application form, saving the cost of the search.:

http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelpregion/asia/india/indiaofficerecordsfamilyhistory/ecclesiasticapplication2010.pdf

but it might be useful to ring the number on the form: 0207 412 7642, to check, and ask any other questions you might have.You might also find they will take your order over the phone at that number.

I can't remember if you got Edward's marriage cert or not. That would presumably have the name of his father.

Linked thread re Tully family:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1349956

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Thanks everyone for the information. Can i ask you all to give it a rest for a while as i have already placed a tick in the box.
I now have a lot of typing to do with my two finger typing. I never did manage to use all my fingers even when i was typing up reports whilst in the Royal Navy.
Best regards all.

Rick

Name: Wilhelmina Veronica Howard
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1920
Date of Registration: May 1992
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Merton
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 14
Page: 786

A journey:

Name: Wilhelmina Veronica Howard
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1920
Departure Date: 25 Jul 1946
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Bombay, India
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: P and O Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 145437
Master: A Rodger

Housewife. No other Howards with her. last address in Uk 275 Finchampstead Road, Wokingham, Berks. Intending to reside in India.

Can't find her husband/marriage in India:

Name: Mary Philomena A Edwards
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1930
Date of Registration: Apr 2005
Age at Death: 74
Registration District: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Register Number: C56D
District and Subdistrict: 227/1C
Entry Number: 41

Sorry address removed.
Thanks Reggie.

Sorry as i said to Kucinta yesterday was a bad day trying to catch an escaped bird of prey, today was no better will have to try tomorrow.
regards Rick

Bride's Forename:Wilhelmina Veronica
Bride's Surname:Tully
Bride's Age:20
Groom's Forename:Herbert Alan
Groom's Surname:Howard
Groom's Age:25
Year Of Marriage:1940
Date Of Marriage:1940
Place:Secunderabad
Presidency:Madras
Bride's Father's Forename:-
Bride's Father's Surname:-
Groom's Father's Forename:-
Groom's Father's Surname:-
Archive Reference:N/2/167-8
Folio No.:146
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948

Rick, best to remove the email address - against GR policy I'm afraid, and you might get reported....

Reggie has kindly posted several Tully births or baptisms including Mary Philomena Alice Tully.

Thank you for all that information Kucinta.

Now I have to put it all into the tree. My side is just as bad as my side of the family in the 1800's bred like flies on one tree I have more leads that people.
Edward Tully is the right one according to the wife but she says that there are still two to find:-
1 Willomena Tully aka Aunty Willo married a guy with surname Howard.
2 James Tully .
3 Mary Philomena aka Aunty Philly besames an Edwards.

Sorry for not replying to your last but I have been out all day yesterday and today trying to catch an escaped bird of prey that still has its leash on and I was shattered.



Best regards Rick.
ps keep the email address. If you are ever in France give me a shout and we could share a couple bottles of wine..

Another version of the death of Edith Grace.

Pretty much confirms her mother Edith Winifred Roach's death (posted previously) was childbirth related, and Edith Grace died aged 2 days.

First Name:Edith Grace
Last Name:Roach
Date of Death:16 Mar 1918
Date Of burial:16 Mar 1918
Year Of Birth:1918
Age:2D <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Place:Secunderabad
Presidency:Madras
Archive Reference:N/2/123
Folio:-
Page:130
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948

Her mother's death (again)

Name: Edith Winifred Roach
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 18 Mar 1918
Burial Place: Secunderabad, Madras, India
Death Date: 17 Mar 1918
Death Place:
Age: 32
Birth Date: 1886
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: J. A. Roach

DUH! I was wrong. Edith Grace died of 'fever', Edith Winifred died of 'anaemia caused by malaria'.. Described as infant daur, and wife of J A Roach Station master Dornakal respectively.

Death of John Roach?

Described as a pensioned Drummer. Cause of death was 'Fever'. Location same place as Josephine Jane Roach born previous year.

First Name:John
Last Name:Roach
Date of Death:08 Aug 1879
Date Of burial:08 Aug 1879
Year Of Birth:1831
Age:48
Place:Pursewalkum
Presidency:Madras
Archive Reference:N/2/60
Folio:-
Page:258
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948

I posted these two on page 3 Now adding father's occupations:

First Name:Josephine Jane
Last Name:Roach
Date Of Baptism:13 Oct 1878
Date Of Birth:28 May 1878
Father's First Name:John
Mother's First Name:Elizabeth
Place:Vepery
Presidency:Madras
Father's Last Name:Roach
Mother's Last Name:-
Archive Reference:N/2/59
Folio:320
Page:-
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras

Father: Watchman M H or R

irst Name:Joseph
Last Name:Roach
Date Of Baptism:24 Feb 1873
Date Of Birth:-
Father's First Name:John
Mother's First Name:Elizabeth
Place:Bellary
Presidency:Madras
Father's Last Name:Roach
Mother's Last Name:-
Archive Reference:N/2/54
Folio:44
Page:-
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras

Father Pend (Abbreviation for Pensioned? hard to rread) Drummer 6th Regt N I

I agree Reggie, feedback needed.

At least we can now discount the Massachusetts couple who had exactly the same names as John Roach and Elizabeth White. Both are very common names.

If John Roach drummer and Elizabeth White are JAR's parents, this looks like the most likely baptism for him, even though no middle name, I believe I posted it previously but thread getting too long to check :-(

First Name:John
Last Name:Roach
Date Of Baptism:14 Jan 1869
Date Of Birth:09 Jan 1869
Father's First Name:John
Mother's First Name:Elizabeth
Place:Masulipatam
Presidency:Madras
Father's Last Name:Roach
Mother's Last Name:-
Archive Reference:N/2/50
Folio:9
Page:-
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras

Change of occupation, father is now a pensioner.

Feedback needed from Richard.......................

Based ONLY on the earliest of the baptisms


British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription

Bride's Forename:Lila Constance
Bride's Surname:Kelly
Bride's Age:19
Groom's Forename:Victor Robert
Groom's Surname:Tully
Groom's Age:28
Year Of Marriage:1902
Date Of Marriage:22 Jan 1902
Place:Madras
Presidency:Madras
Bride's Father's Forename:William
Bride's Father's Surname:Kelly
Groom's Father's Forename:James
Groom's Father's Surname:Tully
Archive Reference:N/2/91
Folio No.:44
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Entry No.:-
Record set:British India Office marriages
Category:Birth, marriage, death & parish records
Record collection:Marriages & divorces
Collections from:Great Britain

One I've posted before...

First Name:Jessy
Last Name:Roach
Date Of Baptism:10 Nov 1861
Date Of Birth:28 Oct 1861
Father's First Name:John
Mother's First Name:Elizabeth
Place:Mercara
Presidency:Madras
Father's Last Name:Roach
Mother's Last Name:-
Archive Reference:N/2/42
Folio:299
Page:-
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras

Father a drummer 6th regiment M N I

Name Last Name Year Of Birth Year Of Baptism Place Presidency Record set
Edward Saxton Tully 1924 1924 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
(purchased)

Sybil Blanche Tully 1908 1908 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Image
Naisey Burnice Tully 1914 1914 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Image
Maisey Burnice Tully 1914 1914 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Image
Edna Mavis Tully 1904 1904 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Image
Dudley Edgar Tully 1916 1916 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Stanley Oscar Tully 1919 1919 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Obadiah Alexander Tully 1933 1933 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription
Mary Philomena Alice Tully 1930 1930 Secunderabad Madras British India Office births & baptisms
Transcription

Cont'd

First Name:Sarah
Last Name:Roach
Date Of Baptism:26 Apr 1856
Date Of Birth:24 Apr 1856
Father's First Name:John
Mother's First Name:Elizbeth
Place:Bangalore
Presidency:Madras
Father's Last Name:Roach
Mother's Last Name:-
Archive Reference:N/2/36
Folio:136
Page:-
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras

Father a drummer 6th Regt N ?

EDIT: died an infant daur of John and Elizabeth Roach. Drummer 6th.

First Name:Sarah
Last Name:Roach
Date of Death:26 Apr 1856
Date Of burial:27 Apr 1856
Year Of Birth:1856
Age:3D
Place:Bangalore
Presidency:Madras
Archive Reference:N/2/36
Folio:-
Page:193
Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948

First Name:Georgiana
Last Name:Roach
Date Of Baptism:30 Sep 1857
Date Of Birth:09 Jun 1857
Father's First Name:John
Mother's First Name:Elizabeth
Place:Arcot
Presidency:Madras
Father's Last Name:Roach
Mother's Last Name:-
Archive Reference:N/2/38
Folio:286
Page:-

Catalogue Description:Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras

Father a drummer 6th Regt of native Infantry -