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I have James Howarth with his siblings

Peggy, Alice, John, Martha, Molly, John, Edmund Sarah and Hannah

I have found a possible marriage but i am not 100 percent sure..

James Howarth to Mary Ann Tennant in 1877 Rochdale to this marriage are

William H 1863 - Mary E 1865 and Lucy Jane 1871

Thanks

I am online for the next 35 mins ... as i am at a library

Can't see the 1877 marriage on freebmd or Lancsbmd


There is one for Mary Ann Kay

I think i have gone wrong somewhere Mike - Thanks

Not Mary Ann Kay as that particular James Howarth married Fanny Schofield

1877
SCHOFIELD Fanny - HOWARTH James .
Norden, St Paul Rochdale


Do you have any dates for his siblings ?

Peggy c1812
Alice c1817
John c1819
Martha 1821
Molly 1829
James 1836
Edmund 1844
Sarah 1848
Hannah 1851

Just to be sure we have the right family, Is this your James in 1891 ?
James Howarth
Age:55
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836

Spouse's Name:Mary A Howarth

Where born:Haywood, Lancashire, England
[Heywood, Lancashire, England]
Civil Parish:Wardleworth
Ecclesiastical parish:St James
Town:Rochdale



James Howarth 55
Mary A Howarth 52
John Thos Howarth 33
Edwin Howarth 30
Mary E Howarth 20
Annie Howarth 16

All i know for certain about John is sibblings and father John Howarth

So this must be the family in 1851

John Howarth 58 - born Wardle
Sarah Howarth 54
Alice Howarth 25
Molly Howarth 22
James Howarth 15 - born Wardle <<<<<<<<<
John Howarth 14
Edmund Howarth 7
Sarah Howarth 3
Hannah Howarth 2 Mo



Did Sarah really give birth to Hannah when she was 54 ????

Yes that is them Mike .. Thanks

Martha Howarth is my 3 x great grandmother who married William Yates in 1843

There is another James b 1836 with father John and mother Sarah

1851

James Howarth
Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836

Father's Name:John Howarth
Mother's Name:Sarah Howarth
Where born:Rochdale, Lancashire, England <<<<<<

John Howarth 36
Sarah Howarth 40
James Howarth 15
Mary Howarth 11
Elizabeth Howarth 9
Sarah Howarth 6
Alice Howarth 4
John Howarth 2
George Howarth 62
Samuel Howarth 25
George Howarth 22

My time at the library is almost up if i do not reply i shall be back again tomorrow.

Many thanks for your help today

james Howarth to mary ann tenant 1877 Rochdale from this marriage ,,,,

William h 1863,,,
mary e1865,,,
lucy jane 1871,,

was this a second marriage or did they have their children before they married.

if not something is wrong with the date's.

from your first posting.

going by the detail's you gave above,
1871 census,

james-1833-aged 38.
mary a-1832-aged 39.
ann c -1856-aged 15 daughter.
William h-1863-aged 8.son.
mary v 1865-aged 6.
lucy j-1871 aged 0.
mary jane 1848-aged 23-lodger.

parsmonds bears hill terrace,
spotland,
Rochdale.

1881 census.
james-1833-aged 48.
mary ann-1832-aged 49.
William h-1863-aged 18.
lucy j-1871-aged 10.

edenfield road,
spotland,rochdale.

judging by the birth of ann c in 1856 maybe the wedding was in the 1850s not the 1870s.

Did Lucy Jane marry Fred Aspinall ?

1911

Fred Aspinall 43
Lucy Jane Aspinall 40
Marien Aspinall 7
Frank Aspinall 3
James Howarth 78 - father in law - retired - widowed - Rochdale
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Marriages Jun 1903

Aspinall Fred Rochdale 8e 138
Harrison Eliza Rochdale 8e 138
Howarth Lucy Jane Rochdale 8e 138
Mills John Edmund Rochdale 8e 138

1891

James Howarth 58 - Carter - Spotland Lancs
Mary A Howarth 59
William H Howarth 28
Lucy J Howarth 20

not sure mike but I did find this,

james Howarth aged 40 yrs batchelor,
mary ann horsman-widow,
married 30th december 1877 at st chads Rochdale.
groom's father john Howarth,
bride's father Thomas tennant.!!!!

from lancs opc

This birth cert would give you mother's maiden name


Births Sep 1870
Howarth Lucy Jane - Rochdale 8e 50

Marriages Jun 1859
Brown Alice Blackburn 8e 378
Horsman James Simpson - Blackburn 8e 378
Tennant Mary Ann - Blackburn 8e 378
Wilkinson Henry Blackburn 8e 378

I just checked the death's james simpson horsman is down as 1878 aged 43yrs???.
in preston lancs.
they married before he died?