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Can you try and find a death for Elsie Snooks (nee Butcher). I can't see anything on BMD, and wondering if there may be a divorce.
I'm fairly confident it is the same Albert F Snooks that married both ladies.

There are two other people who have Albert in their tree are you in contact with them? One is a Sue

Yes I sent a message yesterday to one of them regarding Albert. I can't remember who my contact was who gave me the information originally. I will have another look now you have given me some more names to work with.

Looks like Elsie re married in 1951 too

Name: Elsie A Snooks
Spouse Surname: Cooper
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1951
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1746
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Percy R Cooper Cooper Or Snooks Or Butcher

How interesting.

Might have found an earlier marriage for Florence, if of course it is the right one you found, born 1911.
Florence W Collins
Thomas J Brockbank
Romford Essex 1931

Can we get any further details to either eliminate or confirm?

I have also found 2 possible children from that marriage, Sheila and jean, 1934 and 1938, both in Essex.

I can't find a death for Thomas, possibly went to war?

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)

Collins Florence W Romford 4a 617

I gave you that marriage and birth for Florence at the start of this thread

All you can do it try and contact anyone with these children in their trees

Or purchase the marriage certs.... I cannot see what happened to Thomas Brockbank not even a war death is showing

There are 5 Brockbank/Collins births but cannot see what happened to some of them (that I have searched for) either...so maybe they were adopted also?

Just had a thought, will ask John if his mother's age was on his birth certificate. That should confirm or eliminate a few names.
I have sent off a few messages and hope that someone will reply.
Thanks for your help again. It would seem that more questions have been raised rather than answered!

Just found the Electoral roll up until 1961 Albert and Florence were living in Bethnal Green with a Sarah...think it could be his mother

Name: Sarah Ellen Snooks
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1878
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1975
Age at Death: 97
Registration district: Poplar & Bethnal Green
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1204


Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Fish Sarah Ellen Bethnal G. 1c 383
Snooks John Bethnal Green 1c 383

Not that it is much help but fits in with Alberts mothers maiden name being Fish

Oh that's fantastic work Jax. That at least confirms Albert was married twice and that Florence is another branch to add, with the added link to my Fish pond.
I didn't have a marriage or death date for Sarah either, so extra information too.

No luck with Florence's age on the birth certificate, but at the time of John's birth she was living at 1 Mildmay Park, Islington, London, and was working as a paint brush maker. She baptised John at the Church Of England Hostel before giving him up for adoption.
It's a pity we can't see the 1951 and 1941 census' :(

A stroke of luck .. I have found a T J Brockbank as a POW.
Welsh Guards #4119910. Wonder if it was Thomas?

Don't know if this helps. Unfortunately there is no full name :( Good luck in your search.

WWII Prisoners of War
Name T J Brockbank
Rank Guardsman
Regiment Welsh Guards
Camp No. 91D
Prisoner of War No. 14910
Record Office Welsh Guards Record Office, 16. Wilton Crescent, London, S.W.1

TY Janet. That's a lot more than I could source.

I have found out some more regarding TJ the POW.

"Stalag 344 was at Lamsdorf, Germany. Formerly known as Stalag V111, the Lamsdorf facility changed its name to Stalag 344 in 1943.
With the rank of Guardsman he would have been in a work camp attached to Stalag 344. Perhaps the number given was that of the work camp.

The whole camp was evacuated westwards in January 1945 and was later filled with POW from BAB 20 and others."

(Thanks to the military section of another website)

OK, here's a thought, the reason we can't find a death record for Thomas is because Thomas is still alive???
Impossible for me to look further into from here.

If he married in 1931 it is very unlikely he is still alive now...but could of died in the last 5 years.

Think you need to find out whether this Florence is the same person from perhaps any children you can find.

If he was still alive when she remarried they may not have divorced? maybe thats why there is some confusion over what was her maiden name when those other children were born plus the birth in 1948

I did also think that he may not be from England or Wales as I could'nt see a birth for him....so maybe he went back to Canada, USA or Australia??...just a thought

Now I have found this....are these things hiding I wonder :-D

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Thomas James Brockbank Name: Thomas James Brockbank
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1909
Date of Registration: Feb 1987
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 264

Name: Thomas James Brockbank
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1909
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire, Merseyside
Volume: 8a
Page: 450 (click to see others on page)