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Sheila

Sheila Report 25 Mar 2012 08:38

You realy are a bad girl for staying up so late but Thank you very much.
I just "think " you may have found out how the family arrived in Liverpool. or how they got there That is where my Harry comes from :-) :-D <3

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 08:23

???????????????

1871 Census

Name: John Monday
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Monday
Gender: Male
Where born: Salesbury, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Christchurch
Town: Christchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch

John Monday 44 Accountant
Caroline Monday 44
Fanny Monday 18
Alfred Monday 15
Aimee Monday 11
William Monday 7
Ellen Monday 3







England, Marriages, 1538–1973 for John Munday

Groom's Name: John Munday
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Caroline Dogget
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 1844
Marriage Place: Maddington, Wiltshire, England
Groom's Father's Name: William Munday
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Isaac Dogget
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15230-1
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1279340
Reference Number: 2:MGSWBJ


another record on the same site shows the actual wedding date ............


Groom's Name: John Munday
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Caroline Dogget
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 17 Feb 1844
Marriage Place: Maddington, Wiltshire, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:




Bedtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 08:21

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Pricilla Edmunds

Name: Pricilla Edmunds
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1806
Christening Date: 23 Nov 1806
Christening Place: Wareham, Dorset, England
Father's Name: William Edmunds
Mother's Name: Jane




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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 08:09

?????????


England, Marriages, 1538–1973 for William Monday

Groom's Name: William Monday
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Ann Bawden
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 23 Mar 1826
Marriage Place: Ashburton,Devon,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05020-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 916802
Reference Number:



England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Monday

Name: John Monday
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 18 May 1826
Birthplace: BROWN STREET PARTICULAR BAPTIST,SALISBURY,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Monday
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C09322-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0516595 (RG4 2064)
Reference Number:


Name: Jane Monday
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 06 Sep 1830
Birthplace: BROWN STREET PARTICULAR BAPTIST,SALISBURY,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Monday
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ann
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C09322-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0516595 (RG4 2064)
Reference Number:



apparently you can see the actual images at thegenealogist.co.uk ............... you can view, print, and save the original image (fees may apply)



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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 07:57

???????????????????


1841 Census

Name: William Monday
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Edmund
Hundred: New Sarum
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Salisbury
Sub-registration district: Salisbury

William Monday 40 not born in county, Shoe M.
Ann Monday 40 b. ca 1801, not born in county
John Monday 15 b.ca 1826, Wiltshire, Shoe M.
Jane Monday 12 b.ca 1829, Wiltshire

Address:- Chipper Lane



I think this is the same William married to Priscilla in 1851 .... Cordwainer is another word for a shoe maker



Deaths Jun 1848 (>99%)

Monday Ann Salisbury 8 313





I have not yet found either William or Priscilla in 1861, Priscilla is a widow in 1871, and living in London. I wonder if this is William .............


Deaths Mar 1854 (>99%)

Monday William Stockbridge 2c 47




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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 07:11

England, Marriages, 1538–1973 for James Robins

Groom's Name: James Robins
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Priscilla Edmunds
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 12 Apr 1830
Marriage Place: Melcombe-Regis, Dorset, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15941-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1239212
Reference Number:



1841 Census

Name: Priscilla Robins
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: St Thomas
Hundred: New Sarum
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Salisbury
Sub-registration district: Salisbury

James Robins 40 b.ca 1801, Wiltshire, Driver (presumably of horses!)
Priscilla Robins 35
Priscilla Robins 10
James Robins 8
Alfred Robins 6
Edwin Robins 2





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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 06:23

????????????????????


William Monday, possibly the Vice-Admiral's brother


1851 Census

Name: William Monday
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Priscilla Monday
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ashburton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Salisbury St Martin
Town: Wiltshire
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Salisbury
Sub-registration district: Salisbury

William Monday 53 Cordwainer
Priscilla Monday 44 b.ca 1807, Wareham, Dorset
Priscilla Ann Robins 19 b.ca 1832, Melcombe Regis, Dorset, Daughter-in-law
James C Robins 18 b.ca 1833, Salisbury, Wiltshire, Son-in-law, Stationer's Shopman
Alfred Robins 16 b.ca 1835, Salisbury, Son-in-law, Apprentice
Edwin Robins 12 b.ca 1839, Salisbury, Son-in-law, wine Spinner

Address:- Pam's (????sp) Chequer, Culver Street


Daughter/son-in-law often used for stepdaughter/stepson


Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)

Monday William Salisbury 8 670
Robins Priscilla Salisbury 8 670




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 05:57

?????????????


Great Britain Deaths and Burials, 1778-1988 for Henry Monday

Name: Henry Monday
Gender: Male
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 12 Nov 1879
Death Place: Merchant Marine, At Sea, Great Britain
Age: 50
Birth Date: 1829
Birthplace:
Occupation: Mate
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B01611-3
System Origin: Great Britain-EASy
Source Film Number: 1483315
Reference Number: pt2,Sh550,pg72,ln24


1871 Census

Name: Elvina Monday
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park

Elvina Monday 35
Maria Leaf 66, b.ca 1805, Hull, Widow, Annuitant
Henry Monday 11 b.ca 1860, Devon, Son

Address:- 88 Hill Street




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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 05:32

James and Eliza Monday apparently had 2 children

Eleanor Charlotte Munday
born 1823 in Plymouth, Devon
married 1849 Edward Briscoe in Liverpool
died 1901 in Toxteth, Lancashire


Henry W Munday b.1829 in Scatswick, Cornwall



Marriages Jun 1849 (>99%)

Briscoe Edward Liverpool 20 319
Monday Eleanor Charlotte Liverpool 20 319




??????????????

Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)

Burton Mark W. Derby 8b 700
Fairclough Martha W. Derby 8b 700
Leaf Elvira W Derby 8b 700
Monday Henry Wall W. Derby 8b 700




Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Henry Wall Monday

Name: Henry Wall Monday
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 27
Marriage Date: 23 Nov 1856
Parish: Liverpool St John the Baptist with St Thomas
Spouse's Name: Elvina Leaf
Father's Name: James Monday
Spouse Father's Name: George Leaf


from image:-

Henry Wall

Bachelor
Occupation:- Mariner
Address:- 66 Toxteth Street
Father occupation:- Custom House Officer

Elvira

Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- 66 Toxteth Street
Father occupation:- Stevedore

Witnesses:- Edward Briscoe and Mary Jones

Married by License




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 05:11

??????????

1861 Census

Name: James Munday
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashburton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park

Edward Briscoe 42 b.ca 1819, Liverpool, H.M. Customs Examination Officer
Eleanor Briscoe 38 b.ca 1823, Plymouth <<<<< maiden name Monday
G H Briscoe 11
John Briscoe 7
James M Briscoe 5
Mary Louisa Briscoe 3
James Munday 80 Widower, Tide Waiter, Superannuated

Address:- 66 Toxteth Street



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about James Monday

Name: James Monday
Probate Date: 11 Apr 1862
Death Date: 20 Mar 1862
Death Place: Lancashire, England
Registry: Liverpool


from image:-

The Will Of James Monday, late of 66 Toxteth Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Superannuated Officer of Her Majesty's Customs, who died 20 March 1862 at 66 Toxteth Street aforesaid, was proved at Liverpool [11 April 1862] by the Oath of Edward Briscoe of 66 Toxteth Road aforesaid, Officer of Her Majesty's Customs, the sole Executor
Effects under £100


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about James Monday

Name: James Monday
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1862
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 287





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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 04:57

???????????I wonder if this is the Vice-Admiral's brother James??????????????


1851 Census

Name: James Monday
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Monday
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Ashburton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas

James Monday 70 Superannuated from Customs
Eliza Monday 65 b.ca 1786, Plymouth, Devon
Henry W Monday 22 b.ca 1829, Scatswick, Cornwall, Mariner
Edwd Brescoe 32 b.ca 1819, Liverpool, Lancashire, Son-in-Law, Officer in Customs
Ellenor Burcar 27 b.ca 1824, Plymouth, Daughter <<<< should be Brescoe
Gurgharry Burcar 1 1 Mo b.ca 1850, Liverpool <<<< should be George Henry Brescoe
William Lee Yates 31 Lodger
Elizah Yates 36 Lodger

Address:- 26 Duncan Street




sylvia

Sheila

Sheila Report 25 Mar 2012 04:18

O.M.G. What more can I say ????? :-0 :-D

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 00:39

I can't prove anything ................

England, Marriages, 1538–1973

Henry Monday
marriage: 18 Feb 1818 Brixham,?Devon,?England
spouse: Susanna Voisey


Susan Monday is on the 1841, no Henry, in 1841, living in Brixham ....

Susan Monday abt 1796 Devon, England Brixham, Devon
Helen Monday abt 1828 Devon, England Brixham, Devon
John Monday abt 1831 Devon, England Brixham, Devon
Samuel Monday abt 1837 Devon, England Brixham, Devon


Susan Monday is in Brixham in 1851 as Pauper, Mariner's Widow, with sons ................

Name Age
Susan Munday 57
Samuel Munday 9 b. Brixham, Devon
Henry Munday 25 b. Brixham, Fisherman




this is all supposition!




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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 00:27

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Winsor Sampson

Name: John Winsor Sampson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Mar 1820
Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN, ASHBURTON, DEVON, ENGLAND
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1820
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Martin Sampson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06329-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 590685
Reference Number:



but baptism also seemingly registered in London ..................

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for John Winsor Sampson

Name: John Winsor Sampson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Mar 1820
Baptism/Christening Place: Paternoster Row Wesleyan Methodist Registry, London, London, England
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1820
Birthplace: Woolstongreen, Devon
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Martin Sampson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14624-7
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0815957 (RG5 168-9)
Reference Number:



England, Marriages, 1538–1973 for Martin Sampson

Groom's Name: Martin Sampson
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Charlotte Webber
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1815
Marriage Place: Staverton,Devon,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05239-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 917532
Reference Number:




sorry ..... I was wondering if there was a family connection etween teh Mondays and John Winsor Sampson



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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Mar 2012 00:18

so John Winsor Sampson came from the same place

From Dissenting Academies Online ................


Born: c.1819, Ashburton, Devon, England
Died: 1904, Plympton, Devon, England
Nationality: English

Denomination:
Congregationalist or Independent


Student career:
Western College, Plymouth (?-1848)


Career: Minister

Career type: ministerial

Surman ID: 25977


Printed sources:

Annual Report of the Committee of the Western College (Plymouth, 1860) [see archive ID 10544 (1837-60); also held uncatalogued in the Northern Congregational College Collection at the John Rylands University Library (Plymouth, 1857-1876)].






getting sidetracked again :-D



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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Mar 2012 23:48

I think this is the Henry Monday's baptism that you have ...... it's from www.familysearch.org/


England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for Henry Monday

Name: Henry Monday
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 30 Jul 1794
Baptism/Christening Place: ASHBURTON,DEVON,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Monday
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05020-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 916801
Reference Number:


was the Vice-Admiral born in Ashburton???


answered my own question :-)


England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

John Monday
christening: 19 Feb 1786 ASHBURTON,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Monday,? Elizabeth


Henry Monday
christening: 30 Jul 1794 ASHBURTON,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Monday,? Elizabeth


James Monday
christening: 15 Apr 1781 ASHBURTON,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Monday,? Elizabeth


William Monday
christening: 19 Jul 1797 ASHBURTON,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Monday,? Elizabeth





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Mar 2012 23:30

Hi Sheila

I had a quick look very late (our time) last night re Henry Monday, and couldn't find anything ................. but I am a little more awake than I was then so I will have another go


we'd been out to a dinner dance, didn't get home until after midnight, and I was trying to wind down :-D



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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Mar 2012 23:28

Tidbits about William Luscombe ...............


he was obviously a "big" man in local politics, etc

He was a J.P .......... Justice of the Peace

Vice-Consul (or possibly even Consul) in Plymouth for the Netherlands.

A William Luscombe was Mayor of Plymouth in 1869-1870, and laid the corner stone for the new Town Hall. Was this the same one who married Sarah???

Is this the same WL who was involved in a number of companies, for example ...............

"Outside of Sutton Harbour was the Queen Anne Shipwrights' Yard at Queen Anne's Battery. This was run by the Banks family.

.... early in May 1865 a prospectus was published inviting investors to take shares in The Plymouth Ship Building, Dock, and Iron Works Company Limited. The Company had been formed to take over the Queen Anne Ship Yard, which was to be run by Mr Joseph Banks.
.
.

The prospectus stated that there were at the time no iron ship building works in Plymouth. The local directors of the Company were Mr William Luscombe JP, of Messrs Luscombe, Sons, and Company, and chairman of the Sutton Harbour Company; Mr Francis Hicks, of Messrs Hicks and Company, and a director of the Great Western Dock Company; Mr James Peake, late Constructor of Her Majesty's Dockyard at Saltash, Cornwall (this probably means that he lived at Saltash); and Mr John Treeby, of Messrs Treeby and Company, consul for Belgium and Italy, amongst other countries."

--------



sylvia

Sheila

Sheila Report 24 Mar 2012 22:48

Good Morning Sylvia..... I think you have found where ALL or at least part of our money went lol



Can I ask you to pretty PLEASE to look up someone else ????
Henry Monday Born 39 July 1784 (?) he's the Vice Admiral's brother I don't know where I got that date from, or did Herny marry
I know it is a bit of a cheek, but free Ancestry can't help

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Mar 2012 22:23

...... and he managed to leave quite a bit of money for a churchman :-)


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 about John Winsor Sampson

Name: John Winsor Sampson
Probate Date: 10 Nov 1904
Death Date: 29 Aug 1904
Death Place: Devon, England
Registry: London


from image:-

the Reverend John Winsor Sampson of Plymton Saint Mary, Devonshire, independent minister, died 29 August 1904, Probate [granted] London 10 November 1904 to Henry Hodges Hayman, brush manufacturer, and John Walter Wilson, solicitor.
Effects £13040 0s 11d




sylvia