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Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 12:24

Hi everyone- some advise please .
How can I find the birth details of someone born in USA in 1901. Not sure of mothers name or fathers but the child was Lillie (Lilly) Lockwood b USA 1901and on 1911 (where I found the ref to USA birth )census she was age 10 living in Saddleworth with her Grandmother Elizabeth Priest b1849 and Lillie Farr b1881. I want to know if Lillie Farr was the mother of Lillie Lockwood or not ? And if not - who was she ? Thanks for any help in this matter .

Jayne

Jayne Report 20 Aug 2010 12:27

Hope all that made sense - basically would like to know parents of Lillie( or Lilly/Lily Lockwood .

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Aug 2010 12:36

She should be on the incoming passenger lists but I can't find her.

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 12:37

I think this is grandparents and Lillie in 1901

EDIT yes it is Lillie Farr on image

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Priest
Name: Elizabeth Priest
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Smithfield, London, England

Civil parish: Saddleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Friarmere St Thomas
Town: Delph
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Saddleworth
Sub-registration district: Delph
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Priest 42
Elizabeth Priest 52
Lillie Dan 20



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Aug 2010 12:47

I believe on that 1901 census she's Lillie Priest. It looks like the enumerator started to write "dau" for daughter in the wrong column and the transcriber thought it was her surname Dan.

Second thought: Just looked again, it could be Farr.

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 12:51

Margaret

I think it is Farr,

There is this marriage

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)

Farr Elizabeth Saddleworth 9a 430
PRIEST Thomas Saddleworth 9a 430

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Aug 2010 12:51

Grandparents marriage so Lillie was a child of Elizabeth Farr, either from a previous marriage or illegitimate:

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Farr Elizabeth Saddleworth 9a 430
PRIEST Thomas Saddleworth 9a 430


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Aug 2010 12:52

Snap! Rose.

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 12:53

In 1891 The Farrs with an older daughter..Mary E ...maybe she is the young Lillie's mother?

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Farr
Name: Elizabeth Farr
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Smithfields, London, England

Civil parish: Saddleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Delph
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Saddleworth
Sub-registration district: Delph
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Farr 44
Elizabeth Farr 44
Mary E Farr 14
Lillie Farr 10

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 12:56

Name: Lillie Lockwood
Port of Departure: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Arrival Date: 29 Jul 1903
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Noordland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Noordland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: American Line
Official Number: 115355

It looks like she's with a George Lockwood. (and she's listed as a child)

Maureen

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 12:58

Oh that looks likely Maureen :)

any record of a Mary E Farr arriving in US? I can't find a marriage for her here to Lockwood


Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 13:04

1881 another 2 older sisters

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Farr
Name: Elizabeth Farr
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Saddleworth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Millwood
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Saddleworth
Sub-registration district: Delph
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Farr 33
Elizabeth Farr 32
Margaret Farr 12
Joseph F. Farr 10
Lucy Farr 7
Mary E. Farr 4
Lillie Farr


MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 13:08

oooh!



Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mary E FARR
Date of departure: 23 August 1899
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Philadelphia
Destination country: USA

Date of Birth: 1876 (calculated from age)
Age: 23
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Fringer
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 7
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Lillie FARR
Ship: RHYNLAND
Official Number:
Master's name: Dorrud
Steamship Line:
Where bound: Philadelphia, USA
Square feet: 7310
Registered tonnage: 2328
Passengers on voyage: 234

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Lillie FARR
Date of departure: 23 August 1899
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Philadelphia
Destination country: USA

Date of Birth: 1880 (calculated from age)
Age: 19
Marital Status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Fringer
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 7

Maureen

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 13:13

double OOH...

on the 1891 Mary E is a "woollen shawl fringer"!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 13:15

I'm just looking at the incoming to Philly records. Guess who they traveled with? Thomas and Elizabeth Priest!!

Margaret-can you decipher where/who they're going to? It's a married Priest daughter?? Buckley?? in Roxborough (a neighbourhood in Philadelphia).

Maureen

Rambling

Rambling Report 20 Aug 2010 13:15

So the question is which of the Farr girls married George Lockwood in the US?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 13:26

??
1900 United States Federal Census about Mary Lockwood
Name: Mary Lockwood
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 38, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 23
Birth Date: Jul 1876
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1899
Relationship to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Marshall 35
Marshall 26
George Lockwood 34
Mary Lockwood 23
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 38, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll T623_1479; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 963.

Name: George Lockwood
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 38, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 34
Birth Date: Feb 1866
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
Relationship to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Single

I don't know why George is single and Mary is married. Not even sure it's them!!

Maureen

PS-I just know my s-in-law will call any minute,so don't be surprised if I disappear!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Aug 2010 13:26

Oh, how did I miss that passenger list, Maureen? It was the first thing I looked for. Slapping my wrist!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 13:32

It's still a little early in the a.m. for us,Margaret!

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Aug 2010 13:35

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951
Groom name Lockwood
Bride name Mary Ellen Farr
Marriage year 1900
Section or license number 123163
Image number 00116
Digital GS number 4140424


Maureen