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I am not sure if it helps but if you contact the local adoption service in the area they should have the right paperwork and your file. Please do not assume that your birth name was Samantha until you have all of the information. My grandmother was adopted at several days old and named Rosemary, her birth was registered as Shelagh. If i can be of any help please let me know.
Louise

Hiya Sam

So lovely to hear that your search has been a success xxx

Linda is the only person who can apply for her adoption records, but anyone can send off for her original birth cert. as it's over the 50 year ruling. This would give you her birth parent(s) names and therefore something to work with while waiting for her adoption records.

Good luck for the future.

Mary

so it turns out that Linda was also adopted but she never found out about this until she was 21,after she had given me up.she has tried looking but has less information than me.is she the only person who can apply to the GRO for her records or could i do it for her.what can we do next to find out more info on her family,cheers guys.

Lovely news Samantha. Glad its turned out well for you both

Will send you a pm with birth details of Linda

Maureen

Hi guys,just thought i would update you.i have now met Linda and all is well thanks.Can any of you do me a favor and look for a Linda Ann Hazel(think thats the correct spelling)born 23rd May 1957 in Chatham,Sutton area.Just want to check something out,which would explain why we could never find Lindas birth.Thanks guys.Hope you are all well.

Best wishes Sam, hope you find all the answers you are searching for.

i hope it works out for u samantha xxxx

Hi Sam
So Linda is daughter of Cyril after all, well at least that is what the marriage certificate states.
Maybe Linda is there in the births but mistranscribed, name spelt differently!
This happens! It happened with my NIECES marriage CERTIFICATE her surname was spelt completley different.
Good Luck Anyway
Love Janice

so i got the certs i was waiting for.cyril was lindas father according to her marriage cert.she was 47 when she married in 2005.Still dont know why we cant find her birth.Have sent her a letter saying who i am and who i believe her to be.Gave her an e-mail address to reply to so its up to her now.Turns out my middle name is the same as berthas,now we have her death cert.i ve changed my user name guys this is samantha in case you were confused.
sam

Hope you have a happy outcome after your long search

i think i have located my BM thatnks to the help of you all,especially Janice and sheila.just waiting her marriage cert and fathers death cert.i have drafted her a letter saying who i am and where she can contact me.she only lives a few miles from where i work and never lived more than half and hour from me all my life.anyway i will let you know whatever the outcome.for all other adoptees out there looking.please remember it is one of the hardest things for a mother to give up a child and there is normally a very very good reason,i feel very lucky to have been given the chance to have a better life.Linda will never be my mother she was just the lady who made it possible for my mum and dad to be loving, caring and wonderful parents.good luck to you all.
sam xxx

Hello Derek

Yes, all of your thoughts have been thought and other's also.
Your thoughts about daughter-in-law too and checked out.
David on ER and David still alive and located, and positive moves located for Linda.
Samantha now can contact both and hopefully should resolve all questions that Samantha has?
Janice xx

My brother (who was adopted at birth) had tried all avenues - he found us with a classifieds advert in the local press! He worded it "Looking for (mothers name and date of birth) or her children who were living in (area) in the year of his birth." A great aunt of ours read it, rang me, I contacted him which set everything going, he lives in the USA by the way. That was 9 years ago!

Wishing you good luck in your search.

Michelle

sorry misread. he was on ER

anyway, if he and lina where siblings then he would remember an adoption: and should/hopefully be alive!

Have you thought about obtaining Cyril's death cert to see who the informants where??


could this be a scenario to consider? that Linda was a daughter in law or having a relationship with David who was much older and they had a child?? and when to register the birth used Hawkes instead of her own name? .....just a thought as we can not find her birth rec under the name Hawkes

Hi Janice

there are other children born in the same area as David Hawkes with mothers maiden name Freeman. How did you come to the conclusion David was a relation? was he on the ER to?

havnt been on here much but glad to see progress :)

Hi Samantha & Everyone

The death reference for Bertha E Hawkes age 49 years September Quarter 1965 in BRENTWOOD IS REF: 4A 410
Sent this to Samantha earlier with details of David A Hawkes WHO IS THE SON OF Cyril & Bertha Hawkes born 1944.
Also sent information to Samantha about other possible children of Cyril & Bertha.
Note there is also someone on Genes with connections who has been contacted, but not got back yet.
Strange where Linda A Hawkes registration is as no-one seems to be able to locate it on this information and name.
Sent Pm to Samantha with some further thoughts and suggestions to check.
Janice

Sam

Sent you a pm I think it is what I said, the facts seem to match up, fingers crossed.

Hi Samantha

As you now have an exact date of birth for Linda and you already know the district she was born it might be worth your time actually applying to that register office for her birth cert.

It wouldn't be the first time that a registration HASN'T made it to the GRO and would explain why none of us can find it in the indexes.

Mary

ok guys,this is what i found today.
in 1964&1965 electotal role bertha e hawkes and cyril fredrick hawkes lived at 14 paprills,basildon.
in 1966 it was cyril and david a hawkes
on the 1975 electoral role it had cyril and linda a hawkes and next to her name it had 23.5.1975,when i asked they said this was when she was 18.i ve had a quick scout on a few sites but at the moment no luck.i cant seem to find her birth thats assuming from the information at the libary that she must have been born in 1957(18 from 75).some has found a death for bertha hawkes in 1965 registered in brentwood.it is quite possible that linda was also adopted.
sam xxx