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1881 census transcription details for: The Common, Mickleover (Derby)
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2755 Folio: 61 Page: 28

Reg. District: Burton Upon Trent Sub District: Repton
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Mickleover (Derby) City/Municipal Borough:
Address: The Common, Mickleover (Derby)
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
BAILEY, Joseph Head Married M 31 1850 Water Man Gas Company
Mickleover, Derbyshire
BAILEY, Martha Ann Wife Married F 33 1848
Higham On The Hill, Leicestershire
BAILEY, Charles James Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Mickleover, Derbyshire
BAILEY, Elizth Agnes Daughter Single F 2 1879
Littleover, Derbyshire

Just trying to build a picture :-)

Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%)
BAILEY Joseph Hinckley 7a 89
Dabbs Henry Hinckley 7a 89
Jacques Martha Ann Hinckley 7a 89
Jacques Mary Hinckley 7a 89

awww sorry to hear that Chris, it's back to the drawing board then?

Tracey x

Hi Lost for Words and Tracey. Yeah back to the drawing board. I think I will have to try and exhaust the Jacques side. Because I have been told that Martha was his aunt and the fact her sister Mary lived in Coleshill where George is supposed to have been born I felt sure she must have been his mother. This brick wall has left my head spinning.The only other thing I know is that his mother died on ward 9 at the Derbyshire Royal Infirmary before December 1936 not much of a help really though.

Thanks again

Chris

Their is this couple (bear in mind geography isn't my strong point :-)) I can't find a marriage for them

1891 census transcription details for: Common Side, Church Gresley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2198 Folio: 56 Page: 4

Reg. District: Burton Upon Trent Sub District: Gresley
Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: St George & St Mary Church Gresley
Parish: Church Gresley City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Common Side, Church Gresley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
ELDER, Peter Head Married M 42 1849 Fish Dealer
Hull, Yorkshire
ELDER, Rosetta Wife Married F 28 1863
Breedon, Leicestershire

Could Rosetta be the connection!?!

1881 census transcription details for: Lodge, Swadlincote (Derby)
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2758 Folio: 8 Page: 9

Reg. District: Burton Upon Trent Sub District: Gresley
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Swadlincote (Derby) City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lodge, Swadlincote (Derby)
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
FLETCHER, Thomas Head Married M 55 1826 Gen Labourer
Breedon, Leicestershire
FLETCHER, Elizabeth H Wife Married F 50 1831
Breedon, Leicestershire
SHARP, Sarah A Stepdaughter Married F 21 1860
Breedon, Leicestershire
SWIFT, Rosetta Stepdaughter Single F 19 1862 General Serv (Dom)
Breedon, Leicestershire

Hi

It's certainly worth looking into. I'm finding this so frustrating as I would love to be able to tell my gran who her paternal grandparents were. She's 98 and whenever I visit her she asks if I've found anything out. I will update this thread with a result when I can. Thanks again for looking.

Chris

Spouses must be mistranscribed

Marriages Jun 1887 (47%)
SWIFT Rosetta Hull 9d 358
Verrity Elizabeth Hull 9d 358


Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SWIFT Rosetta ELDER Peter St James (Hull) Hull SJH/7/218

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
AMES Emma Burton 6b 436
>>> Fletcher Thomas Burton 6b 436
King William Burton 6b 436
>>> Swift Elizabeth Hackett Burton On Trent 6b 436

Looks like a dead end :-(

Marriages Mar 1851 (97%)
BROOKS ELIZABETH HACKETT SHARDLOW 19 561
Swift George Shardlow 19 561

This is interesting, look at the occupation!?! Straws clutching at :-)

1891 census transcription details for: Beverley Road, Cottingham, Newland, Kingston Upon Hull
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3915 Folio: 27 Page: 10

Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Cottingham
Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: St Johns Newland
Parish: Cottingham City/Municipal Borough: Kingston Upon Hull
Address: Beverley Road, Cottingham, Newland, Kingston Upon Hull
County: Yorkshire (East Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
ELDER, Samuel Head Married M 36 1855 Gardener
Scotland
ELDER, Sarah A Wife Married F 38 1853
Ludford, Lincolnshire
ELDER, Arthur R Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Burgh-Upon-Bain, Lincolnshire
ELDER, Minnie Daughter F 2 1889
Hull, Yorkshire

1881 census transcription details for: 24 Stockmore St, Cowley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1497 Folio: 126 Page: 35

Reg. District: Headington Sub District: St Clement
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Cowley City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 24 Stockmore St, Cowley
County: Oxfordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
COOMBES, John Head Married M 34 1847 Carpenter
Shipton, Oxfordshire
COOMBES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1849 Carpenter Wife
Lidstone, Oxfordshire
COOMBES, William H Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Oxford, Oxfordshire
COOMBES, Charles E Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Oxford, Oxfordshire
COOMBES, Christian M Daughter Single F 2 1879
Oxford, Oxfordshire
COOMBES, Magdelene M Daughter Single F 0 1881
Oxford, Oxfordshire
ELDER, Samuel Boarder Single M 26 1855 Gardener (D)
Scotland

Deaths Mar 1928 (83%)
Elder Samuel 79 Sculcoates 9d 275

Hi LfW,

Wow you've certainly been busy, thank you.

The name and ocupation are spot on, the only discrepancy is year of death. My gt grandad was first married in April 1909 and on the certificate states father Samuel Elder deceased. I've researched the Jacques family from a differnt angle. I've looked at the possibility of Martha Bailey (nee Jacques) being his mothers aunt and not his aunt. I have found a possible Hannah c1870 born Higham Leics. Father is James c1844 mother Ann c1843. In 1851 Martha has brother James c1844 aswell as her two sisters. In 1881 James is with 2nd wife Sarah (Ann had died) it states Sarah is mum to Hannah and the other children In 1891 Hannah is a servant in Herefordshire.In 1901 Hannah still unmarried and living at home with dad James and his third wife Harriet. I suppose it is a possibility and worth re-checking with Birmingham registry office now I have the name Hannah as a possibility.

Chris

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to find out the area someone was living in between censuses.

Chris

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
>>> Elder Samuel Louth 7a 1104
JACKLIN Henry Louth 7a 1104
>>> Robinson Sarah Ann Louth 7a 1104
Vickers Charlotte Emma Louth 7a 1104


1901 England Census about Samuel Elder
Name: Samuel Elder
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Figgshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: Newland St John
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub registration district: Cottingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members:
Name Age
Archie Elder 3
Joy Elder 8
Minnie Elder 12
Rose Elder 6
Samuel Elder 46
Sarah A Elder 38

Hi LfW,

Thank you so much for continuing to try and help me. After your input re Samuel Elder I have looked at all the Samuel Elders I can find and the one you have entered is the only one whose occupation is listed as a gardener which I find quite exciting. I just wish there was a way of finding where he was living 1883/4.

Chris

Hi everyone,

MISSING IN 1861

My gran suddenly remembered today that her dads mothers name was Elizabeth. (Apparently my gran was going to be named Elizabeth but her dad wouldn't allow it).I found the parents of his aunt who brought him up on the 1851 census. They were Charles c1819 Higham on the |Hill and Martha Jacques c1819 Hinkley and had 4 children. I cannot find any of them on the 1861 census. In 1871 Charles and Martha are shown with three other children one of whom is named Elizabeth. I feel that it must be the same Charles and Martha but wish I could find them on the 1861 to confirm.

Could a fresh pair of eyes please try and find them for me.

Chris

Hi Chris

Would this be them

1861 census transcription details for: Village Street, Higham On The Hill
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 2261 Folio: 74 Page: 10

Reg. District: Hinckley Sub District: 2 Hinckley
Enum. District: 10 Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Higham On The Hill City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Village Street, Higham On The Hill
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
JAQUES, Charles Head Married M 42 1819 Farm Labourer
The Poles, Warwickshire
JAQUES, Martha Wife Married F 42 1819 Labourers Wife
Hinckley, Leicestershire
JAQUES, Sarah A Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Higham, Leicestershire
JAQUES, Jane Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Higham, Leicestershire
JAQUES, Charles Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Higham, Leicestershire
JAQUES, Emma Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Higham, Leicestershire
JAQUES, Geo Son M 3 1858
Higham, Leicestershire
JAQUES, Susan Daughter F 1 1860
Higham, Leicestershire

Ancestrys transcription, you may want to submit a correction


1861 England Census about Charles Ingnes
Name: Charles Ingnes
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Three Pole, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Higham On The Hill
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England