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1881 England Census
about Eliza Clark
Name: Eliza Clark
[Eliza Hursh]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Spouse's Name: Frederick
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottm, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 4 Foundry Yd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Servant

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: Exchange
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Clark 20 >>>>> Daughter
Frederick Clark 25 >>> Son in law
Frederick Clark 1 >>> Grandson
Dinah Hursh 23 >>>>>>>Heads >daughte
William Hursh 47 >>> Head
Sushannah Pearce 89 >>>> Boarder


So Elizabeth definitely had at least one sister Dinah

where elizabeth's parents thomas and mary ann?

G.G's parents were Thomas Hartshorn and Mary Bailey but as I said I have no info on a daughter called Mary

Thanks for your help

Dinah is actually Sarah

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Hartshorn
Name: Elizabeth Hartshorn
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Arnold
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Amy Hartshorn 7
Elizabeth Hartshorn 9
Mary Hartshorn 30
Sarah Hartshorn 2
Thomas Hartshorn 34
Thomas Hartshorn 11

do you have anything else I can help with while i'm looking at the discs?

Sorry don't think that's the right family chrisa

Appreciate your help

Dinah is Sarah ?
I don't understand that one

So the 1881 & 1871 are wrong!

I thought it was too much off a coincidence

This must be the right one then?

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Hartshorn
Name: Elizabeth Hartshorn
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Arnold
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Amy Hartshorn 7
Elizabeth Hartshorn 9
Mary Hartshorn 30
Sarah Hartshorn 2
Thomas Hartshorn 34
Thomas Hartshorn 11

Thanks SAM
.
Do you have any details re Frederick's brothers ?
As you said John and Martha only had sons

There is a Mary Jane Hartshorn dau of thomas and Mary 7/4/1872
sometimes mary gets changed to martha?

& 1881

1881 England Census
about Sarah Hartshorn
Name: Sarah Hartshorn
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: West Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amy Hartshorn 16
Annie Hartshorn 4
Elizabeth Hartshorn 18
Flora Hartshorn 2
Louisa Hartshorn 10
Margaret Hartshorn 6
Mary Hartshorn 41
Sarah Hartshorn 12
Thomas Hartshorn 43

Yeah that's the one chrisa

But I don't think they went on to have a Martha so she's still a mystery

these are all baptism's for John and Martha Clark in Arnold
Herbert 28/1/1855 arnold father's occupation tailor
Frank Herbert 28/6/1857 father tailor
Fred 28/9/1876 father Cottager
Walter 18/2/1849 father tailor
Henry 18/7/1852 father tailor

baptisms for thomas and mary Hartshorn in Arnold
Thomas 5/8/1860 fathers occupation frame work knitter
Amy 30/4/1865 father fwk
Sarah 25/7/1869 father fwk
Mary Jane 7/4/1872 father fwk
Florence 10/8/1879 father fwk

Maybe Martha is really Margaret as you say chrisa but then we don't have a marriage for a martha hartshorn to a keetley.
Looks like the problem won't be solved


Thanks chrisa

Can't find any death's on the disc for the Hartshorn family (the burial disc isn't that good).

Confused again Sam unless there was another John and Martha Clark

My g.g. was Fred b.1863 and I had him with brothers Frank H and william
Thought their father remained a cottager/gardener

Never heard of anyone being a tailor

Frank H is there it definately says tailor. I thought it a little strange such a big leap but if times were bad people did suddenly change occupation. Then again there could be two clark families.

Just having a rake about on the Clarke side. Is this right?

1901 England Census
about Frederick Clarke
Name: Frederick Clarke
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Florie Clarke 4
Fred Clarke 8
Frederick Clarke 38
John Clarke 6
Martha Clarke 11

just found a marriage of William Clarke to Martha Bland but it was in 1805 so prob no connection.