General Chat

Pat, thank you for that. Im in a same sex relationship and we really arent any different from anybody else - we have the same ups and downs and quarrels as everybody else. Its just a pity more people didnt think the same way

It's times like this that I'm so pleased that MY generation are so much more open-minded than previous ones. Love is love, sex is sex, who cares what gender you are? There is so much negativity in this world that we could do without individuals being repressed based on their sexual preference. As long as people are happy it IS NOT important! Gay, lesbian, bisexual, heterosexual... I couldn't care less, we're all human and as long as you respect me as a human being then I will respect you. I look forward to the day when such narrow-minded homophobia is a thing of the past, love becx

Sheila Thank you, well at least it's changing, but like all changes its slow but at least it changes eventually. Its up to us to make sure it keeps changing for the better which it will, this is what I believe. I believe people power you and me and many others who will see the changes and benefit from them. Respect. Pat x

Well, this has certainly been an enjoyable exchange of opinion. Circular Pat, I don't normally offer any personal information to the world via this or any other site. But since you 'came out' tonight I will too. I'm a heterosexual woman married to a heterosexual man. Like you, I don't see what my sexual persuasion has to do with my support of laws which grant equity to my fellow human beings. Love Patty x

Pat - You've hit the nail on the head (AGAIN!)... it's my lot (generation) who are impacting on the world and I don't have one friend who is homophobic... we've seen the c*** that goes on in this world and we don't want it. We want peace, harmony and for everyone to accept everyone for their beliefs and choices (bar violence, padeophilia etc) Religion is less and less an issue now, I regard people as individuals not followers of a belief/cause/sexuality/etc. I am so proud to be part of a generation who are open-minded and concerned about individuals' wellbeings regardless of their sexual preference or religion.... who cares? We will always have one thing in common... we're all human... and we all deserve the same rights!!! becx

Brian (with an eye) - With all due respect, have you tried anal sex? becx

Brian (i) Don't wish to appear rude. But this thread was intended to highlight the subject of civil rights. In particular the affordance of such to Canadian citizens by virtue of the bill just passed by Parliament. Can we keep on track. Thanks, Patty :-)

or more to the point brian, are you just against two men having anal sex?

Patty - thanks for a great thread, I really cannot wait until the day the same law/bill reaches the rest of the world. Believe me though, it will! My lot are ready to transform society! Love becx (A pioneer for the future!)

Patty you and me like sisters many thanks for a very enjoyable thread as this. Politically and socially, I believe in freedom of choice as long as people are happy with what they choose then repsect to them. Sheila respect to you and you have many people like me who believe we all have the same rights you should be proud of you as we all should but stick together in our beliefs which with me is of one people(human) one aim (respect and equality) one destiny (Peace and Love). To all my brothers and sisters no matter what your political, sexual persuasion is, we are all one. Respect to all x Pat x

Patty, sorry for getting sidetracked on your thread. The civil rights bill is a step in the right direction, after all we are all human beings as bec said and at the end of the day all everybody wants is someone to share their life with, whatever sex they are. I think we are creatures of habit who need to pair up.

For the final time tonight.... It's all about the FUTURE and myself and my peers ARE the future so be prepared! Anyones' sexual preference (be it partner or position!) does not bother me in the slightest! I respect and love my fellow humans regardless. Don't like my opinion - TOUGH! AS I've already said, we are the future.... love becx (respect to all, I might not agree with your opinion but I'd die for your right to have it!)

I would like to know why Hetrosexual males are so against the actions of homosexuals? I find the same people are often the first to form this male Prison ring, yet when they are on the outside they seem to think the whole thing is disgusting?please do not tell me this is double standards? I have no time for that whatsoever, please say what you mean and mean what you say, whatever that is its cool. Pat x

Brian - because there are more women on these boards? Or maybe (playing Devil's Advocate) more women are open minded and comfortable with their sexuality? I know plenty of men (of all ages) who claim to be homophobic saying anal sex is wrong... yet their biggest fantasy.... you've guessed it! love becx

Sorry, had to take the dog out for walkies and missed some of the last few posts. Thanks to all it's been a pleasure reading and responding to your thoughts and comments on this civil rights issue. Goodnight. Patty

I say 'To Each His (or Her) Own'. Brian, with respect, maybe it's not 3am where Patty is. Not everyone lives on GMT!!! Deb

Having read all the replies on here....my opinion does not change from what it's always been and that is let every man or women live their life as they choose as long as it doesn't involve violence of any kind, theft of any kind, or forcing their ways upon an unwilling party. In other words each to their own way. Like Pat I like think I do not discriminate against anyone or anything and this is the way my daughters were brought up. I too had Civil marriages (2), this was my choice as I do not adhere to the teachings in the Bible (written by man!) and churches run on these teachings. If couples wish to spend their lives together with or without the marriage vows so be it. If couples are man/women or same sex....so be it. 'Cos the times they are a changing....... Jacquie xxx

Brian (i) Was there some point to your comment about my dog walking habits?? As in 'But' But what???? As Deb pointed out, not all of us live in the same time zone, regardless of that when I choose to take my dog out for a poop is hardly any of your business, is it??? Patty

Well, it's approaching midnight, here... It's been interesting to see some civil argument (LOL). Interesting, too, to see how tolerant most replies have been. As a hetero and married man, I don't feel threatened, and nor do I feel my marriage threatened, by any sort of union, homo- or heterosexual, civil or religious... So long as the arrangements are consentual, that is. It seems more important to me to decry (at the least) forced marriages, and/or coercive or violent ones. But that is getting off topic. Goodnight, all. Thanks, Patty. Michael

In all honesty I cannot back same-sex marriage BUT I do believe that same sex couples should be given the same legal rights as heterosexual married couples. Gay partners have no rights to pension or to property under intestacy and this does need to be addressed along with many other inequalities. Heterosexual couples who choose not to marry must take their chances. Having read some of these comments so far I have to say that the best way to persuade someone of your point of view is not to sneer at them or argue black and white. That only serves to put backs up and entrench already held views. Apart from one person the anti messages so far appear to be personal rather than well thought out rational opinions.