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I would imagine that the police gave the guy every chance to surrender before the decision was taken to shoot!! After all the police are trained to use weapons sensibly!! I would imagine that if they had just knee capped the suspect, he would then have pleaded......' I no speakee de english!!!!!' Then waited to be question for the mandatory 72 hrs without a translator being found????? STOP is Stop in any language, especially when someone is pointing a gun at you!!! This policeman has my admiration for going by his gut instinct!! Karen

What I meant by 'nanny state' is that today it seems that nobody takes responsibility for their own actions - it's always somebody elses fault and where mistakes are made, there is always somebody there to jump on the bandwaggon. If the guy that was shot turns out to be innocent those officers have to live with their actions plus the s**t that will be aimed at them - hence I feel that they must have had extremely strong evidence.

What I was trying to say is that to do what they did in the way that they did they must have had strong enough evidence to justify it.

Aren't the police supposed to protect the innocent? Surely that's got nothing to do with a so-called 'Nanny State'? What is the world coming to when people are gunned down on the basis of a split-second decision and the population is saying 'serves him right for running'. I'm NOT saying that the police didn't act appropriately in this case - they may well have done - but jeepers creepers, this conversation is beginning to sound as though everyone thinks that a shoot on sight policy and to hell with a court system is a good way to go. Has anyone here been at the wrong end of a loaded gun? Tony Blair was talking about getting back to normal but this is not a normal that is going to help me sleep at night.

In order for the police to have done what they did in a public place with so many witnesses they must have been pretty damned sure of their facts - In the nanny state in which we live they would be crucified for killing an innocent man

I was watching the news yesterday aftenoon, when a man was arrested near Warren Street after running away from armed police. Was he one of the would be bombers? No! he was someone stupid enough to commit a robbery within yards of dozens of armed police. D

I've been looking but haven't found it so far. Even so, her son was not the 'innocent party' to which I was referring if he was one of the bombers, so I think my original point might still stand. Also, if one person (either innocently detained or related to a killed innocent bystander) does say 'ah well, never mind', does that invalidate my point completely? There are many more than one so affected.

You may wish to find the interview.

Then I apologise, though her comments are based on the fact that her son was guilty of an atrocity, not an innocent party, so she isn't quite the person I was talking about.

Pretty much what you stated no-one had said Felicity.

No, Wendy, I didn't. What did she have to say?

Rox - I think Kenny Everett had the answer.

Oh dear - did you not see or read the interview given by the mother of one of the dead bombers?

This is a really, really difficult issue. Sadly, we don't have anyone coming along saying 'I was detained for years and was innocent, but never mind it was all in the interests of public safety, so that makes it ok', or 'my relative was killed and had done nothing wrong, he was just scared and didn't respond well to the police but never mind, it was all in the interests of public safety.' There are no easy answers to any of this.

Hi guys, Spare a thought in all this for the poor coppers who pulled the trigger ... ...yeah OK I know they're trained for it ... but by crikey we're asking a LOT of our public servants these days ... ...one HELL of a responsibility. I do hope they got the right man. Scary stuff. Jane

maybe some that were released are out there planning attacks on us right now.thats awfulxxxx):

Kay Sorry but what did Enoch have to say about extremist terrorists? David

kay eye witnesses said the police told him to stop and he just kept running onto the tube.would an innocent man run or stop.i know what i would have done.also the reason why they shot him in the head according to the news is the isreali intelligent forces have said if a terrorist is shot in the chest then they still can detonate a bomb.if he is shot in the head he can't.i believe the police were doing the right thing and maybe had a tip off.xxxx(:

roxanne, I agree with you on that. Ann Glos

Roxanne - couldn't agree more I remember having a debate on here about holding centers about a year ago and there were alot of people who disagreed with me. I wonder how they feel now Jeanette x