General Chat

Well it was a spur of the moment holiday and I guess it has not harmed Dorset's tourist industry.

If I start a perfectly ordinary thread and most of the posts are moronic off topic personal digs at me then sure I will drop it. Tant pis.

Sorry about any invonvenience.

For sure as consumers just not buying stuff won't change the world but people should have the information needed to make a choice not only about production but also the product. How popular would cheap pinapples be if it got around more of the "within permissible limits" chemical overhead?

Australian agriculture is an environmental disaster dating all the way back to the Murray river / Snowy mountains irrigation project.

Son's girlfriend posted this a couple of days ago, another way of taking advantage of people.....not slavery but intellectual property theft....

How easy it is to be called " fashion designers " when all they do is take the typical patterns and embroidery of our native peoples and put a label with a name that sounds " cool " in English...

Big retailers will copy original patterns, get reproductions made cheaply on vast machinery and sell the cloth/clothing at inflated prices and the village designers get nothing apart from the first cheap sale from which the pattern is copied.

That is also a problem I worry about Sylvia :-) the air miles and pollution caused by importing so much of our food. I bought Egyptian potatoes this week, again, because so far all the British grown ones have been tasteless and turn green quickly , including the "new" jersey royals, which used to be lovely.

If you are concerned about "slavery" by companies supplying pineapples to Del Monte ...............


buy Australian grown ones.

Thus proving that even the pineapple can be controversial.

It's difficult isn't it? Life I mean. I don't want anyone to have to work in substandard conditions to produce what I 'need', I think twice about the clothes I buy cheap ( not that I buy much) because I am aware that for the price I can afford to pay the people who make them get a pittance.

There was a book of articles by John Pilger I read some years ago, which highlighted the working conditions of those who work for certain major companies.

Very hard to know what can reasonably go without, eg the internet which is a luxury ( though I salve my conscience somewhat on that score in that it is also a business essential).

If the video is about slave labour, Rollo, has Global Horizons not begun to pay what the court ordered it to pay?

Are you sure that everything you eat, drink, wear, listen to and watch comes from a slave-labour-free source?

That was confusing - showing Dole pineapples, then the Del Monte ad!
The video was from 2010 - see my previous post about workers' conditions in 2013
(try reading it properly)
Yes, there have been concerns about the environment, hence, as from May, production by Pineco, (a subsidiary of Del Monte) in Costa Rica has been suspended.
But that's not slavery.

Are you telling me oil production and fracking don't hurt the environment?
Emissions from vehicles don't harm the environment - and regularly kill people?
Bottling water - and the resultant discarded bottles doesn't harm the environment?

I neither drive nor do I drink bottled water
Is it okay to get all superior and castigate you for driving a car or drinking bottled water, and call you a selfish fool?

Edit: and what about all the other products created with the help of slaves?
http://listverse.com/2014/12/16/10-everyday-products-that-are-made-with-slave-labor/

Hell on earth.

Enter guardian video pineapple into google, watch the short video and make your own mind up.

Since 2010 nothing has changed for the better

Interesting reading, thank you Maggie.

I can see you're concerned about the state of the world, Rollo, so why waste electricity going on here or why waste petrol and rubber visiting Dorset?

Incidentally, you pulled a thread recently so what a complete waste of time, effort and electricity. I never had you pinned as a quitter so what was that all about?

Get stuck into me by all means, but don't be surprised if I'm in a retaliatory mood rather than my usual lazy one.

Next to what, Rollo?

...and yes, I'm predictable at times - as I stated on page 1 :-D :-D

Edit: Only a Wiki thing - but interesting information about Domingo del Monte:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domingo_del_Monte

Especially when their c&p isn't quite right (my c&p in quotes)

If your not going to eat anything that may have (in the past) involved slave labour, I trust you don't eat most fruit, sugar or tea!

As for the recent case against Del Mote - it wasn't them directly, but Global Horizons, a labour recruiter from Los Angeles.
It also wasn't slavery - but working conditions. "Some 150 Thai workers on a Del Monte pineapple plantation in Hawaii will get $1.2 million to settle allegations of sub-standard working conditions."

Now, recent slavery - plenty of it in the UK:
Car washes, restaurants, nail bars, and, of course, prostitution, to name a few.
"Slavery doesn’t discriminate. In the UK, children are used as forced labour in factories, as beggars, cannabis farm workers and even for benefit fraud. In a recent case, four traffickers from Afghanistan brought five children into the UK, where they were used to procure four council houses, income support benefits and supplementary housing and council tax benefits totalling well over £65,000."

Interesting article here about modern global slavery:
http://listverse.com/2014/12/16/10-everyday-products-that-are-made-with-slave-labor/

I trust you don't use ANY of these products.

Predictable or what :-)

I hate googled reports that use American spellings :-(

I eat pineapple hot (fried), cold, juiced, smashed with ice, anyway you like :-D

While enjoying yr lolly reflect that del Monte has convictions for slave labor while its plantations in Costa Rica and the Philipines are next to it.

Bob- drink more water before you water your tomatoes, and don't 'hold it in' for so long ;-)

Hot day - Del Monte 100% pineapple juice ice lolly.

Delish. :-D

So, you can alter the flavour depending on what you water it with. No wonder my tomatoes taste salty.

Thanks for replies :-) I think I would only be tempted to eat it if it were a surefire cure for hay fever :-D