General Chat

I'm sure Rollo will explain all about the New Forest and it's fire coverage problems.

Like we said right at the start something needs to be done big time just none of us knows what unfortunately including the people in charge.

I'm sure I'll get a 'mansplanation' about gorse burning :-D :-D :-D

I'm sure you will....and how the removal of the fire watch towers did; or did not depending on your point of view; affect the fire fighting. :-D

For the first time ever I think I'll be going to vote with no clue how I'm going to vote until I get there.

*disclaimer*

Not Tory, obviously. ;-)

and at almost zero hours,

TMay comes out with a plan to help safeguard lives which should have already been in place. years ago as a matter of course.!.

..but she's been in the Party for years as Home Secretary, and a lot of what she's 'promising' is contrary to how she voted in the House of Commons.

Some examples of how she voted:

Generally voted against Labour's anti-terrorism laws

Consistently voted for merging police and fire services under Police and Crime Commissioners

Generally voted against introducing ID cards

Voted a mixture of for and against a transparent Parliament

Almost always voted for greater autonomy for schools



The list of how she voted can be found here:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes

Totally agree with what's said here but is anything going to get done that will help fix the problem? We can all say for all parties over the years they did this wrong or ignored that; like I said I'm not explaining away or justifying; but that's done and what's to be done for the future now to protect everyone?

More police to start with!!

Interesting article by a Muslim:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/london-bridge-terrorist-attackers-british-muslim-man-islam-saudi-mosques-wahhabi-different-a7775116.html

So, Rolo, No comment on the article, by an educated young Muslim.
I presume, you assume, what he said about the Qu'ran is not true, by your comment:

"Yes but the two crossed swords are on the Saudi flag for a reason".

Let's look at the flag with the two crossed swords, which is the EMBLEM of Saudi Arabia, not their National flag.
The two swords represent the Kingdom of Hejaz and the Sultanate of Najd and its dependencies, which were united under Ibn Saud in 1926.
The palm tree represents the Kingdom's assets which are defined as its people, heritage, history, and resources natural and non-natural. Thus, the palm is shown to be guarded by the two swords, which represent the force to be used in defence of the nation.

There's your reason! How did this come about? Was it, as you're always stating, a case of 'Convert or die'.

The Kingdom of Hejaz was a state in the Hejaz region in the Middle East ruled by the Hashemite dynasty. It achieved national independence after the destruction of the Ottoman Empire by the British Empire, during World War I, when the Sharif of Mecca fought in alliance with the British Imperial forces to drive the Turkish Army from the Arabian Peninsula during the Arab Revolt.

The new kingdom had a brief life and then was conquered in 1925 by the neighbouring Sultanate of Nejd under a resurgent House of Saud, creating the Kingdom of Hejaz and Nejd.

So, British involvement.

Islam may have started in Saudi, but different forms have developed, like in every other religion in the world.
If you had actually read the article, instead of assuming you knew, you would see the author is also against Wahhabism.
No good just saying 'a' is 'bad', and 'B' is 'Good', and the Government are stupid.
The leaders of countries come and go - even Kings.

Instead of having a fixation, that you know best, everyone else is wrong, try understanding what the majority of Muslims believe.