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~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 11 Jun 2013 16:05

As I don't read every post, I have no idea who is ill, or what there circumstances are, like I don't know if some people are male or female, some board names could be either, but that doesn't really matter to me. I think of this board like I would a room I'd walk into, where I knew some people but not others, therefore I'd watch my language ;-) not get into too much discussion about politics or religion, both of which I think are too personal to go into detail about on a genealogy forum, each to there own and all that :-D

However bad it was years ago, we should have moved on by now I reckon :-D

If I thought someone was telling outright lies to gain, money or favours, or to be deceitful, then I'd say so, but if someone said they climbed Everest before breakfast, then said they played football for England in Brazil that afternoon, I'd probably say, how wonderful, how did you do that then, but |'d probably think, bless, and assume everyone else knew they were lying through there teeth:-D

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 Jun 2013 16:30

As RR said you would never find this mix of people in a room together...Well in my (humble?) opinion if you did I bet you anything most people would bite their tongue and be nice ...it can be very hard to be nasty when you are face to face / eye to eye with people who don't have the same opinions as you do especially us Brits as we tend to keep quiet rather than have a full blown row...........am I right or am I wrong I wonder :-S :-S :-S

Lyndi

Lyndi Report 11 Jun 2013 16:37

Lynda,I agree with you in that I don't think it is my concern who is ill, bereaved etc unless they wish to share, but I think the point that John was trying to make is than these events can make people more sensitive and vulnerable.

Events in the chat room over the last few days have really upset me, but nobody could be expected to know that. And if they did people probably wouldn't care and certainly it wouldn't change the things they say.

Nothing was directed at me, but because of past experience when insults, goading etc is taking place as I read every word makes me physically flinch.
Between the age of 11-16 my life was a hell of verbal and emotional abuse, unless you have stood between your younger sister and a red-faced foaming at the mouth stepfather, trying to look brave but shaking with fear and your stomach in knots you won't know how I feel.
I avoid confrontation now, and have managed through life quite well, and never expected for these feelings to be reignited in a chat room of all places!!

I am not looking for any response to this post, just trying to state how this can make onlookers feel. You might say well don't read - but sometimes you just can't help yourself ;-)
There may well be others who have been in similar situations who feel like me.
There was much understanding on here towards victims of sexual abuse, but other forms of abuse hurt and have lasting effects as well. I have now retired but it still lingers.

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 Jun 2013 17:05

Lynda I agree with you too only my response to someone climbing mountains in the morning and then playing footy in the afternoon would be "Well done you" .... see I'm just gullible and tend to believe whatever ;-)
Lyndi I also agree with you too having been a member for quite a while I shake my head at some of the remarks and do get annoyed hopefully not to go in full blast (tell me to stop if I ever do) I also think you have been very brave in your childhood alas these memories must be with you and easily brought to the fore when you see the carry-on here just keep cheerful :-)

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 11 Jun 2013 18:38

Lynda I told you in secret that I had climbed h'everest last week
before me egg on toast and the knocked the ball around for Brazil ...tsk :-)

Mauatthecoast

Mauatthecoast Report 11 Jun 2013 18:47

pants on fire Hayley :-0 ....actually you said you'd played around with Christiano :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 Jun 2013 18:54

I am a cynic and I think Hayley is lying. Anyway, when I climbed Everest and played for Brazil, I don't remember any pretty young blondes.

I have never boasted about what I have done in the past. I have just stated it because I thought it was relevant to the discussion. I know there are some even more cynical than me who don't believe I won the major prize in retail for management in 1976 - a large cheque and a large cup presented to me by Lord Trenchard at the Dorchester in front of over 1,000 leaders of the retail industry - Sainsbury family, Cadbury family etc. But I did - that is fact. Photos to prove it, and a beautiful certificate. And almost everything else I have shared is fact.

Not sure why some think it is incredible what I have done. To me it is just normal. Everyone else must have had moments in their life when they did things that we might find difficult to believe.

I think people know when someone is fibbing anyway - I have fibbed about climbing Everest in this very post. But not about playing for Brazil in the 1970's at left wing. ;-)

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 11 Jun 2013 19:39

and again Mau sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....I am well gunna watch who I tell what too :-|

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 11 Jun 2013 20:24

Lyndi, abuse is abuse, and I feel for the recipients, what ever type of abuse it is. If only people realised that a child will become an adult one day, maybe they would have more respect for them, as I'm sure those who bully or abuse children, wouldn't do it to an adult :-(

I only used what you told me as an example Hayley ;-)

John, I guess if we all put our great achievements on here, day after day, people would get bored, that said I like reading what others have done.
I've done, heard and seen some things, that I'm sure sound unbelievable, to some, but I know I have done, heard and seen those things, and that's good enough for me :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 Jun 2013 20:33

Lynda. I think possibly each generation has a chance to do a lot more than previous generations. Money, travel, internet etc.

One thing I never believe is that my opportunities have made me better than any of my ancestors. Or better than anyone else on this forum. Or worse. Just different :-)

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 11 Jun 2013 21:01

John have you ever seen Zelig? I think you would enjoy it.

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 11 Jun 2013 21:13

John, apart from the absolute no gooders, I believe that nobody is better than anyone else. Some of my ancestors didn't have a pot to wee in, yet they achieved remarkable things in life, one particularly helped his fellow man, yet died a pauper. Material things are nothing compared to compassion and love.

:-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 Jun 2013 22:11

Errol. I am a complete ignoramus about films. I have watched Dr Zhivago and Schindlers List, Grease, Dirty Dancing, and Saturday Night Fever. Had to wicky Zelig, I'm afraid.

Lynda. Totally agree. And I think there are less absolute no-gooders than we think. I am always amazed just how nice the vast majority of people are when you get behind the first impressions :-)

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 11 Jun 2013 22:45

That wasn't very nice Errol. Zelig is about a man who had a mental illness of sorts.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 Jun 2013 23:07

This is the first evening for ages when everybody (absolutely everybody) has been nice to each other.

And my friend has suggested a film. And I might watch it as it had a good review and it is a Woody Allen film.

Happy night for all of us on these threads. Long may it continue :-D :-D :-D

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 11 Jun 2013 23:19

SueMaid I have no idea what you mean. Have you seen the film? It is a comedy about a human chameleon and maybe a good reflection of and insight into many of us. Your statement that it is a film about a man with a mental illness is absolute bunkum and if you have seen the film and truly understand the comedy and pathos you would recognise that.
Let's face it, Shakespeare has been amusing and entertaining audiences for centuries with exactly the same comedic technique.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 11 Jun 2013 23:20

Really John? Then I must be reading other things into some of the comments being made lately :-(

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 Jun 2013 23:22

Sue Maid;-) Honi soit qui mal y pense (Welsh for Malcolm profits from immoral earnings)

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 11 Jun 2013 23:24

John I was just about to say honi soit qui mal y pense

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 11 Jun 2013 23:30

Absolute bunkum? Ok.