General Chat

Rose ........

I hope you find it, because it is quite fascinating to read, and to see how just a little distance could separate the area where Jesus was according to the Bible and where people think it was.

Of course, this doesn't apply to major sites.

Sylvia, I will ask when I am in town next, just possible library will be able to order it in.

Rose ....

Yes, it is expensive. I've seen a copy of it, I'm not sure whether Roy lent it to OH or gave it to him, or whether we still have it somewhere in the house.

He has had the wildest experiences while doing both his scientific research in the field and following this hobby!

Would a library be likely to have a copy???

Sylvia, I went to look for the book, but out of my price range even if still available, pity because it sounds very interesting :-)

I came across this though, related to it, so someone appreciated it :-)
http://livingintheholyland.blogspot.com/2011/02/arise-walk-through-land.html

Wouldn't the problem of building a pyramid today be largely down to

a) having a quarry the appropriate size for the huge stones needed

and more importantly

b) " It's believed the great pyramid was built with the labour of 5,000, 20,000 or 100,000 people (depending on which expert is doing the estimate) over the course of 20 years or so."

and also that the craftsmanship needed has died out? When you look at old census records in the UK you see quite a substantial number of 'stone masons', there would be fewer today I think, aside from those with a real desire to train and work in that field and repair our old buildings.

The video on the Pyramid is not my opinion, it's an alternative to so many available.
The purpose and method of their construction is beyond my comprehension,
especially as most modern builders say they couldn't replicate it.
Much of the genealogy of the OT is so difficult to comprehend, but it's all we have,
that or evolution.
In 2019 an incident reported in the newspapers is modified the next day, maybe the
location or characters. So if "news" can change so rapidly and soon become history,
what chance have of knowing the accuracy of the 6000 year old Pyramids ?

Good morning :-)

It sounds as though you have had a restful trip Sylvia and thank you for the synopsis - I had a look and found it a very interesting read.

It's interesting how this subject of how places change over time has come up now - I have been watching the news with Prince Harry walking along the same stretch of ground as his mother walked 22 years ago. Then it was a path through a minefield and now it is just a street in a small town.

You often see then/now photos of towns on FB and I find them fascinating. Even driving to town I try to imagine what the main road looked like a hundred years ago - with lots of small houses huddled along the sides or open spaces where there were once houses. Thanks for all that folks. :-D

It's Sunday again...…

The Collect (special prayer) for today :

God, who in generous mercy sent the Holy Spirit upon your Church
in the burning fire of your love:
grant that your people may be fervent in the fellowship
of the gospel that, always abiding in you, they may be found
steadfast in faith and active in service;
through Jesus Christ your Son our Lord,
who is alive and reigns with you, in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, now and for ever. Amen.


The Gospel reading tells the story of the poor man Lazarus at the gate of the rich man.


Cx :-)

David .............

what have you been watching now??

All the evidence is that the Great Pyramid of Giza was constructed between about 2580 to 2560 BC (using the old term for Before Christ). Another term used is that ALL the complex at Giza, including the Great Pyramid, was built during the Fourth Dynasty of the Old Kingdom of Ancient Egypt. The Pharoah who was alive at that time was Khufu (also called Cheops).

Methusaleh had nothing to do with it ................... unless you wish to contradict all the scientific evidence and opinions of very well qualified Egyptologists!

The easiest place to read all anout the Giza complex is to go to Wikipedia, then to various other more scientific papers and books.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza

Good evening <3 Concerning the mystery that surrounds The Great Pyramid of Giza.

A part from the Kings and the Queens chambers are several skill-fully constructed

rooms detected by camera on robots. Far below the Pyramid is a lake of

clear water containing a sarcophagus. The narrator of the video says the Pyramid

was constructed by Enoch, Father of Methusela long before the Deluge.

https://youtu.be/5q6Xx4FqP8s

Good morning Cynthia and others :-D. Different scriptures are attributed to

different individuals, yet Timothy says All Scripture is inspired of God and

beneficial, for teaching and reproving etc Timothy3 16-17

Hi everyone

so pleasing to hear that everyone is doing well, and recovering from illnesses.

We've been away for a few days ................ travelling by train to Jasper and then another train to visit a niece who now lives in the the house that her parents built in the 1970s, having done massive renovations over the last 5 years thus almost completely changing it from "parents' house" to "their own house". Her mother was OH's sister who died 5½ years ago.

It was a very pleasant trip, and most restful because we didn't see the TV news or read a newspaper for 10 days ;-) . Such a rest from the British and US antics, and our own Federal election.

Having read through the last few pages, I would like to make the following comments, if I may.

1. Not much was actually written down during the time of Jesus ............ at least not that has been found and translated. Much of what was passed on was verbally, by story telling, as so few people could actually read. And that continued for several centuries until the ordinary person was able to read the Bible in their own language. So I personally think we have to be very careful in believing that all the stories are completely accurate.

EDIT:- I do not mean by this that it was deliberate, but something might be made simpler so that a completely uneducated person could understand .......... eg, the time line in which God made the world.

2. As a sort of indication of that, we have a Botanist friend who is a very strong Baptist. His "hobby" is to go to Israel and find the places mentioned in the Bible. He goes to the place that is now called a Biblical site, stands there, looks around, and sees if the general area fits the description as given in the Bible.

How many of you would be surprised to hear that many of the sites visited today as a place where Jesus spoke, or performed a miracle are actually NOT that place at all.

That is not to say that the places do not exist .............. but that the knowledge passed down has been corrupted slightly over time.

As an example of how our friend discovers this ............... there will be a site from which Jesus could see a hill straight ahead and another to the right, or a lake to the left. He goes to the place identified as that site ............. but he cannot see any of the other geographical features from it.

However, there will be a similar site a short distance away ............... half-a-mile, or a mile. When he goes to that place, and looks around, he can indeed see all the features mentioned in the Bible.

He wrote a book back in 2004 .............. Arise, Walk Through the Land, by Roy Turkington.

I see that it is available on Amazon for around $52.

This gives a synopsis of how he did what he did, and the problems they got into!

https://ubcgcu.org/2012/08/30/ubc-professors-travelogue/

Thank you for those words Cynthia.

As you say, these are turbulent and disturbing times but kindness and charity can still be found. Our local paper has reported that more than a dozen local businesses have offered free or discounted goods and services to the former staff of our branch of Thomas Cook and others have offered to help them find alternative employment. I find it encouraging that people in the community still care when others have problems :-)

Morning all <3

Vera so pleased that things have gotten better for you're husband
and yourself.
How beautiful to visit the Glass Church what a wonderful thing to see.

Thank you Cynthia for those words x

Good morning :-)

Baby Connie is just beautiful... <3 A church made of glass? Certainly that is different Vera and something to google in a minute. Imagine trying to keep it clean...avoid damage.....arrghhh. Then think of the sunrays shining through. It must be beautiful in sunlight. So pleased you have managed to have a few days break and that hubby was well enough to enjoy it.

In these turbulent political times.....something to remember...

God is above you - to bless you,
below you - to support you,
before you - to guide you,
behind you - to protect you,
beside you - to comfort you and
within you - to sustain you.


Cx :-)

Good evening all

Connie looks a little ray of sunshine Emma. It’s a joy to see that happy smile after all her problems.

Thank you for enquiring about me Kandj. We have been to Jersey for a few days with a group of friends and though I haven’t posted I have managed to look in every day. I feel very blessed that OH has made such an amazing recovery that we were able to get out and about and enjoy the break.

On Jersey we visited a little church known as the Glass Church. Jesse Boot, founder of Boots the Chemist, married a girl from Jersey and had a home there. This was his local church. When he died his widow asked Rene Lalique, who was a friend, to refurbish the church in Mr Boot’s memory. Much of the interior of this church, including the altar and font, panelling and ornamentation, is in Lalique glass. It is certainly different.

We also looked into a Catholic church as we were passing by and that was also an unexpected treasure with some beautiful stained glass. We are so lucky to have these lovely places of worship.

For us it has been a very happy few days and so tonight my thoughts are with those who are not so fortunate and who do not have the means or opportunity to lead such a blessed and happy life.

EDIT. I forgot to mention that I have also been to the shrine at Walsingham. I was surprised to find the Russian Orthodox Church in the village there.

Hello good morning :-D <3 Yesterday evening those political partys in

opposition to the Conservatives had the opportunity to call for a general

election, they did not. And in the US the antipathy toward President Trump

will not guarantee his impeachment, he may even get a second term.

Good morning :-)


As for the two leaders mentioned by David - methinks they both need a lesson in truth and honesty.

Lord God,
keep in me a sense of humour and the ability to laugh at myself. Lead me always to be positive, looking for the best in people and in situations. Each day and in every way may I grow in the love of the Father and the presence of the Son, and the power of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Cx :-)

Hello all,

Yes kandj that is Connie, always smiling.

To all in need of comfort and prayer x

Hello all

The Walsingham link did indeed bring back many lovely memories Cynthia. Thank you

Where is Vera? I hope all is well with her and her OH/family today.

Emma, is that Connie on your Avatar, she is a beautiful smiley little baby.

David, it remains to be seen what will happen to our PM and USA President, but they are both causing great concerns for us all.

Heavenly Father, we pray for all world leaders, that they might make just decisions and use their power wisely, so that everyone may receive a fair deal and that peace may prevail in the world. Amen.

Hello, good morning :-D <3

It's looking like the US President and the UK PM in real danger of being ousted.