General Chat

Yes, I'd like to see that thread back. Slaps on another NRT patch :-S

I'll do what I bl**dy well please in my private property and in my own spaces.

I don't smoke in the car tbh..but I'm almost tempted to, just to stick two fingers up at the bureaucratic nanny state this country is becoming.

I am not posting this to be controvercial, I'm really not.
I am a smoker, but............
Mainly in the confines of my own home. I use my common sense as a responsible adult, and I think we all can do that without a government edict, telling us not to smoke in a car particularly when children are on board. I smoke in our own car, but not in other peoples, and would not dream of asking them, if I can.
How do they propose to 'police' this infringement. They cannot do this properly with people still using mobile phones in cars.
I agree wholeheartedly with Ann. We do not need to go any further into a nanny state, than we already are. They should channel their ideas into things that really matter to society eg violence on the streets, carrying knives or offensive weapons, etc.
Having said that, I am off to boil a pigs trotter. Is someone going to report me to the NSPCA, for cruelty to animals. Ha,ha, LOL
Julia in Derbyshire

I'm not a smoker, and welcomed the ban in public places, but this is just silly. How will it be policed? I see plenty of drivers using mobiles - if these are not prosecuted, how will the smokers be? Do we really want the over-stretched police force doing this rather than catching speeders, drunk/dangerous drivers or un-roadworthy cars?

Or those who tear through our 30 mph village at 45 :-(

Just as an aside. When buying a new to me car, the first thing I look at is the ash tray for signs of it having been smoked in because if it has you usually find that the inside roof is stained with nicotine, and also despite valetting the smell never goes.

I think if the driver of a car, who has bought, insured and taxed it, is 'alone' in the car he should be able to have a smoke in peace regardless of what anyone thinks.

However having been at the receiving end of unwanted smoke anything which protects the non smokers from the sheer selfishness of ' I must have my cig' has to be a good thing.

My grandmother smoked most of her life and was in her 80's when she died. Since doing family history I have found the rest of her family lived into their late 90's so the cigs might have cost her 10 years. -jl

I,m an Ex Smoker.Capstan Full Strength.Gave it up 20 yrs ago.The price of Cigs now is really too much,However if the Government really wanted to stop people smoking they should just Ban The Import of it,(More likely to see a squadron of Flying Pigs) as the taxes from it are quite considerable.Banning it in cars? well its up to the individual to decide this,most cars now come with Air Con which can be switched on,Ashtrays and lighters are installed in most.But if Men or women like to be Kissed By an Ashtray or smell like one,Thats Their freedom of choice,which they are entitled to make. :-S

what really bugs me about all this is the government's double standards - we all know that alcohol abuse costs millions of pounds a year to this country - night time - particularly weekends, the main job of the police is sorting out drunken "revellers"" falling out of drinking establishments, courts deal with alcohol related offences ranging from GBH, drink driving, domestic abuse et al, yet the governemt allows advertising in all forms. Bars offer "happy hours" and special offers and the supermarkets offer great deals on bulk buys, particularly with Christmas coming up

Ever seen special offers on tobacco products? I never have and would not expect to

Many moons ago I worked for Gallaher - the cost of a packet of Benson and Hedges at that time was around 3/6 - Gallaher got 6d, the government got the rest in tax, so presumably the same proportion exists today - if everyone gave up smoking taxes would go through the roof and tax would therefore have to be levied on an alternative product.

Would it be alcohol? I doubt it - I recall that Michael Martin the last Speaker of the House was selling a branded whisky with the logo of the Houses of Parliament on it - a portcullis!!! You can't get much closer to government than that

Ask a policeman or a nurse in A & E who they would rather treat - a smoker or a drinker!!

There - got that off my chest now!!! :-D

I think the main reason for this is to protect the health of children from passive smoking. I grew up with heavy smoking around me and hated it and suffered serious chest infections as I got older. My sister missed a lot of school due to bronchitis. Both parents deaths were smoking related. Yes, I would ban it anywhere there are children present.

Adults can choose how they ruin their own health........but if they want children,they should be made to behave responsibly with their childrens' health. Children have no say in these things themselves, similarly with what diet they are fed.

Yes I would stop drinking in public places too and slap more tax on cheap drink and on junk food.

By doing all these things we hopefully would all have a healthier start in life and save the NHS a lot of money.

Edit: same as you Janet, one parent died age 78 but siblings lived into mid 80s and 90s. The other parent was only 58.

all this about passive smoking,what about the fumes from cars and lorries that we all breathe in daily,dont you think thats harming you(but of course it would be silly to ban driving wouldnt it) in the grounds of my local hos,staff are not even allowed to smoke in there own cars during breaks,the staff carpark is a quarter of a mile from the main hos,its mad.
(i brought this subject up last month,the welsh senedd are trying to get a smoking in car ban inforced in wales in the next few yrs)

If you think about nearly everything is bad for you one way or another sugar salt coffee fat tea need I go on

I say you only live once and life is for the living to live exactly how they want to

We all know what's bad for us It's up to us what we do about it

Carol :-D

i think they should ban cars .. cause when im waiting to cross the road i must breath about 50 car fumes lol . i agree ppl should not smoke while kids are in the car . but blimey gosh there are worse habbits out there .
rosie . nearly a total ex smoker lol

BRILLIAN T LETTER

I BOUGHT A ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE
STATES ON CARTON CAN BE SMOKED ANYWHERE
PLANES AN TRAINS, T***CO HAVE SOLD LOADS
FOR FLIGHTS.
I ASKED AT THE TRAIN STATION THEY SAID
NO WAY ALL TYPES OF CIGARETTS ARE BANNED

SOME ARE GOING TO B E VERY ANNOYED

I'm in Cardiff Suzanne and my local hospital - Whitchurch - does not allow staff to smoke in their cars in the grounds!!! and the fact that no one can smoke in the grounds is ridiculous - the hospital must have the largest grounds in the country - acres of fields and trees!!! ambulances coming in and out as well as delivery lorries emit far more pollution than a cigarette would

I've changed my name from Green Gables by the way - fed up with it and it's too long!!

seeing as how car fumes were mentioned.......with "modern" petrol cars the fumes(although they smell) the gas coming out of the exhaust is likely cleaner than the air going in.......I recall, say, 20 odd years ago coming out of work after a nightshift on a cold frosty morning..........maybe a 100 cars, all running on choke while the windscreen thaws out, now, THAT was a killer, then......


with modern diesels the particulates are so much finer, that they get deeper into the lungs, whereas years ago it would hardly get past your throat!
Bob

It's not so much "Nanny State" as Dictatorship!!
Cigarettes & Tobacco are not illegal substances - although to be a Smoker now is akin to being a Leper in the middle ages!!

While we all sit back and watch,our freedom of choice & civil liberties are being slowly but surely taken away. It's the Smokers today - but next on the hit list might be something that affects you.

The trouble is we're too lazy to actually make a stand, we'll moan about the rights or wrongs of Governments latest policy on forums etc but won't actively make our views known to the Powers that be.

In that respect Government are right - the people won't question policies in large enough numbers to stop anything.

It is frightening how much is changing in such a short space of time.
In 10 years we could be told how many children we can have,how many cars we can own & how much meat & dairy we can consume in a week! :-0
All i do know is this isn't the same Country I grew up in - common sense & right & wrong have been replaced with PC Claptrap & Euro dictats.

Sorry for ranting but it makes my blood boil!! -all these interfering petty rules & regulations that keep being introduced rather than dealing with MAJOR Issues like - Youth/ Gun crime, drugs, anti social behaviour etc. If these things were dealt with firmly EVERYONE would benefit.
But I suppose it's easier to vilify /criminalise smokers!! ;-) ;-)

I well remember being told offf for smoking in a hospital car park a few years ago, while in front of us, the hospital incinerator was belching black smoke in all directions. Goodness knows what was in that.
I have smoked for most of my adult life, but have always tried to be considerate to non smokers, even when it was permissable in restaurants, pubs & other public places & have usually found fellow smokers equally considerate.
What I do in my private space is my business.
As it happens, neither my husband nor I smoke in the car, but I think we should have the right to make that decision for ourselves.

With the exception of our pet dog, I dislike those with bad breath being in my car.

pleased to report that my letter is printed in full in this today's South Wales Echo!!! result :-D

Well done Ann.