General Chat

The problem is are fighting Terriost abroad when we have thousands liveing and walking around on our streets.That we cant deport or get rid off because off the human rights rubbish.You give up your rights when you try halm the public.Law needs to change.

No we don't have "thousands" Kevin...we have 'some'....

I now but its seams every Terroist that gets out off prison .Cant be kicked out off the country which we all now they should be.

Many have been, Kevin.... but that doesn't sell newspapers, I am afraid. So they are not reported. But I agree, it can seem soul destroying when we are led to believe that they are all allowed to just walk the streets... 3 have been imprisoned in the last couple of days. Whatever you feel about them being kept here by the British taxpayer, at least we know they are behind bars, where they belong, and not roaming our streets.

A couple of alleged terrorists, who the judge said were highly likely to present a serious threat to our National security, have won their case not to be deported in case they were hurt in their own country, BUT have now had extradition papers served on them by other countries who have had their laws violated by them, possibly... so let us see, shall we? Maybe other Western countries are not as hogtied as our legal system appears, sometimes, to be. Softly softly sometimes works in our favour. I don't stick to headlines, I read the little snippets, hidden away... they say a lot, sometimes, in one small sentence.

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Daff xxxx

I totally agree they should never have been sent there, I am angered when I read about the able bodied afghans that choose to live here and claim our benefits whilst our people go over there and fight 'their' war for them. It's humiliating to think tax paid from a serving soldiers wage is going to an afghan asylum person here in this land.

I agree our people should be brought home and the asylum people should not shirk their duty they should go back and fight for their country.

Gill how many Afghan asylum seekers are in this country? and how many of those are women and children?

Rose, far too many, as for women and children our young women are fighting their cause, so they should too.

This is my opinion and I don't usually say much about this, but it does anger me when our young people are willing to fight for this country are willing to fight for peace and freedom overseas yet their own flee to other countries. If we could count all asylum seekers and the illegals that are in Europe and UK I expect they could out number our service people over there.

Gill

20 Jun 2010 ... There are 4200 unaccompanied child asylum seekers in Britain and of these, the majority are from Afghanistan.

2008 "The Australian government is investigating claims that up to 20 Afghan asylum seekers denied entry to Australia were killed by the Taleban after being sent home.

Chris Evans, the country's Immigration Minister, has ordered an inquiry into claims that the murdered refugees were among 400 asylum refugees refused entry into Australia by John Howard's government.

They include a man whose two daughters were killed in a Taleban attack on his family's home near Kabul, after his asylum claim was rejected by Australia in 2002.

Abdul Azmin Rajabi was targeted by the Taleban after rejecting Islam and marrying outside his tribal group. After his father was beaten to death for refusing to say where he was, Mr Rajabi fled to Australia, leaving his wife and children in hiding in Iran. He arrived on Nauru in late 2001, where his claim for asylum was rejected. "

Sorry rose but that isn't what is happening here, perhaps you could also post the figures to how many of our service people have returned from afghan in boxes.

Gill

Certainly Gill... over 300 deaths of UK troops ( well over 1000 US troops) ...I don't need to google that sadly...

but I still wouldn't want to send children back to fight!

No neither would I but Rose there are able bodied afghans 18 years and onwards that should be sent back to fight.

Gill

I want to make it clear here, that my last post was not about Asylum seekers such as Rose is highlighting who need and deserve our help and safety, but the few who have been identified as a threat to our national security. They are actually rarely Afghan...

Just in case it is misread... I firmly believ that people who are truly seeking asylum should be welcomed and helped to stay. Many many of us have ancestry which will include people who have fled to this country to safety. And some who have fled this country because of persecution here, in the past.

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Daff xxxx

The problem is any 1 with an excuse to stay here .Never gets sent back .cant even get rid off hook bloke costing thousands in Legal aid to keep that the scum in this country.

Read the news more carefully, Kevin.... he is not erm, off the hook at the moment....... sorry, couldn't resist. He is one of those I was talking about... last week, while the Moat news dominated, there were a number of very very interesting little snippets in some of the newspapers. ;¬)) Softly softly, as I said.

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Daff xxxxx

This was a little bit bigger than a snippet... but this made interesting reading. I do believe that one day, they will be where they should be.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10551784

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Daff xxxxxx

any way its.Soul destroying to see 5 more young lads killed today 12 in 48 hours.I feel for there familys

I hope so daff.Because we going to leave are children in a country they feel like a stranger in xx

Anyone who wants to read something NOT in the gutter press... a 'real' story not a nameless statistic

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/20/mohammad-razai-afghanistan-asylum-seekers

OK I have read that news story, this young afghan has taken every opportunity and made good use of them, so why is it that now he is an adult british citizen he chooses not to fight with the other british citizens, some of which never got the opportunity to attend college.

I'm sorry as a child he deserved the help and guidance to make something of himself but as an adult he could at least make the effort to stand by our soldiers and fight this awful war.

As a paediatrician, I think he will more than pay any debt you and others might think he owes.

He will dedicate his future to helping British children.

For that to be wasted, that skill and that gift, he may go back to his country of birth one day, too, and help those children there.

He will give back far more than he has been given.

People like him save lives.