General Chat

Yes, it would definitely have to taught with no bias

Forgot to say...in a staunch Conservative area the kids chose UKIP

But the main thing Jeanette is that they were taught to read up what the parties stand for. well done teacher.

No, Enoch Powell wasn't a facist; but, despite his dizzying intellect, he was a fool.

Nick Griffin et al are just fools.

In my opinion.

It will be interesting to see how the BNP evolve. Nobody screams fascism when Plaid Cymru wins seats yet they were just as 'right wing' in the mid 1900s as the BNP. True or not they were reportedly aligned with Meibion Glyndwr who carried out the firebombings of English owned properties.

Now they are seen as a credible party and their manifesto has been 'dumbed down' to be more inclusive and less exclusive.

I rather suspect the same with happen with the BNP over time.

I really hate the BNP

I'm surprised, that this country, a country which promotes fairness, racial equality and anti bigotory, etc in our schools, allows a party to stand in elections who would do their best to undo many years of change for the better in these matters.

What next will they allow ?.

...Terrorist party ??

(because they have a right for their views to be heard, and for peoples right to vote for them, and for people to follow their lead to torment and kill as many people as they can ? ).

Well the people who said they were too disgusted to vote have got their answer. Apathy won again. I believe the turnout was averaging about 42% - it is disgusting - mind you I do not know what or when the highest turnout ever occurred. I think voting should be mandatory.

You've just said what i was about to Chris.

Think a lot of folk who couldn't be bothered to vote (which really makes my blood boil!) were,in the end, responsible imo for BNP gaining votes :O( ...and makes for sad reading particularly this weekend being 65th anniversary of DDay.

Chris how would you know who had voted ,and who hadnt ,also what punishment for not voting ,just a thought

BMP are not my cup of tea
but each to their own

I am not taring anyone with any brush just stating where the majority of votes were gained.

Perhaps those anti voters in this latest voting were to have voted then slim chance of this BNP party ever gaining MEP seats.

Thier policies dont not meet with everyones liking same as all the other parties.




Perhaps their voters have just gone for the look of another party without really looking into all they stand for.!

EPowell wasnt a racist he just wanted to keep this country all white!

Mildred,

Some people would argue that Sinn Féin are part of a terrorist party. These days they seem more focused on sorting things out properly. I dont know if there is a comparision with aforementioned Welsh party, Plaid Cymru. (?)

I think it was Bobbie who posted about people voting BNP through disillusionment with Labour. Well long before Labour got in BNP were contesting seats in the south with success through 'disillusionment with the Conservatives. My Dad stood as Independant which is why I remember it so well... Would have been before 1996 as he died then.

Its more about disillusionment with the current financial situation which i global.

Voting should be made compulsory? Really? And who will you make people vote for? The party you support and you think people should vote for?
And look at our sham democracy - at the last general election Labour got approx 35% of the vote i.e. 65%, a huge majority of voters, did not want a Labour government. Add in a generous 50% turnout and the present government were elected on as little as 17.5% of the available vote.
And the fool who is head of this government, unelected by anyone but a few thousand scots.
And this is democracy?
And it is ignorant and naive to equate being an English, Scots, Welsh or Irish nationalist with being either Fascist or a BNP supporter, the clue is in the name - BRITISH national party.
The English Democrats welcome members from all ethnic / racial groupings and so far as I am aware so do the other nationalist parties, exept the BRITISH national party.
Hmmm, is n't British what Mr Brown would like us to be...

Morning Theresa :-))))

I'm not sure that it is due disillusionment with the financial situation as I fail to see how people would think that BNP could sort it out. More a disillusionment with the government as a whole, exaserbated (sp?) by the recent expenses scandal and and uneducated protest vote

it really frightens me....That may sound a bit overly dramatic, but they are facists, and the impact and influence they may be able to have now doesn't bear thinking about. They pretend to be a legitimate party, who are not racist, just trying to support white english people, but the reality is that they are against anyone else, and one of their manifesto policies is "voluntary repatriacian" (?sp)

Not sure if anyone saw the BBC last night, as the election results were coming in, they had information about the guy who was elected for Yorks/Humber, used to be a member of the national front etc .....yeah, not racist!!!!

Edited (once I caught up with the other posts) Plaid are NOT a racist party. Plaid want the Welsh Voice to be heard, not to be seen as part of England, but Plaid are inclusive, and will work for their members and constiuents, of all backgrounds - including English - whereas the BNP will only work for those who fit into their white english cubby hole.....! THey are NOTHING alike.....

NO NO NO, Mamiddau not white English people, please get it right, the BNP support white British people. That is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The English are not solely responsible for the BRITISH national party.

And some numpty would like the voting age lowered to 16.....!!

Britain is England to the BNP.....Nick Griffin has a house in Powys, and once (few years ago) showed a journalist the veiw - over mid wales - and appaently said "englands green and pleaseant land!" - say no more.,.......they do not stand for what the welsh need and want, nor the scots......they are an english party who fielded candidates across the UK.....

Sorry , as an Englishman I don't agree and find the suggestion that English Nationalism = BNP offensive. But hey, this is a sort of democracy and we can have different views : )
There is an English Democrats party for English nationalists which is most definately not fascist and had its first success in the council elections last week. Nowhere near as big as Plaid or the SNP yet but little acorns...

Eddie...as far as I could see the English Democrats were the only party that seemed to have their whole manifesto on the internet. It made interesting reading and I particularly liked their stance on speed cameras lol. I did however wonder if thier policies did smack slightly of racism....or is it that we're just conditioned to that way of thinking these days. And if the English Democrats could be considered racist for their views then could the SNP and PC be considered racist for theirs? All surely have the interest of their own people at heart???

Eddie....I was not trying to imply that English Nationalism (genuine) is facist....the BNP claim to be a nationalist party....they are really racist. The English Democrats (from what little i have seen/read of them) do seem to be more on the same level as Plaid Cymru and SNP. The BNP do not see Wales and Scotland as being seperate entities within the UK, but that Britain is - to them - England.....English Nationalism is NOT the BNP....the BNP have tried to portay themselves as being nationlists, but they are not. I did not mean to link the two, I understand there are differences......HUGE ones......I'm welsh and Greek, my hubby is a yorkshireman, the BNP and their ilk frighten me, true nationalism is something to be proud of!

Oh....i don't think that makes much sense! sorry if I caused offense Eddie....think my dislike of the BNP and their manipulation of their manifesto got in the way of my typing!