General Chat

Hello Rox - there are definitely some immigrant problems and especially as you say in some areas but a lot of parties are starting to address that now - how effectively remains to be seen. I can understand the anger of some people and I don't assume they are all racist - but the BNP will never be the answer for me.

Hayley, I think it's probably more to do with upbringing than education really - I was brought up to see all people as equal. What I feel our forefathers fought against was everything evil that Hitler and the Nazis stood for and the same goes for the BNP

Merlin, I have every right to say what I want about Enoch Powell. He was a public figure and a politician and I didn't form my opinion without reading a lot of what he said and wrote.

I don't believe in enforced voting (even if you can spoil your paper) in the same way that if you are born in this country I don't believe in id cards. (surely my passport, driving licence etc will suffice if I want to leave the country or drive) It just seems wrong.

What I can't understand is....the BNP say they stand for whats British...and dont agree with Europe so whats the point of them having a seat???? OH has just had the news on a women in Manchester said " sorry I voted BNP " ermm Sorry you either believe in what you voted for or why bother so why be sorry, to me that smacks of someone who was maybe brianwashed in to voting BNP by her old man or circle of friends. I didnt vote this time but I am thick and didnt know who to vote for, however I have voted Labour in the past I did in 1997 as I thought Tony Blair would move the country forward in the right direction.

Hayley will you please stop putting yourself down like that. not having in interest in politics does not make you thick. Got it?

Otherwise I agree with what you say. I bet there won't be many holding up their hands to voting the BNP in, because it was a protest vote I reckon. Voting for the party they thought WOULDN'T get in, and it's backfired on them.

I personally think enforced voting would be a good idea. Let's face it, how different would previous election results be if there had been enforced voting? Who knows? Would Thatcher have been in power all that time? Would Blair?

I am totally shocked that a country that is mutli-national, multi-cultural and multi-religeon and claims to be anti-rascist has come to a time where it has allowed these low-life racists to infiltrate our politics system ~ how our standards have fallen and what a massive leap we have taken backwards these people are not fit to stand in government over us ~ I know I have a neighbour who is a BNP representive and what a vile excuse of a man he is!

What kind of message does this send out to our children! What a sad day it is! Im representing our schools anti-racism campaign and one of our jobs is re-education and it is very much needed you would not believe the tripe that leaves the mouth of such young people yet it as to be done so we are starting with the parents and the community as a whole this is going to take a lot of doing but we have to do something who knows what kind of society we will be living in, in 10 years time and what kind of citizens we are breeding!

Uggers I will remove my comments if they offend

I know what you are saying TW but I think I belong to the group of people who see voting as a right that I can choose to exercise rather than a duty that I have to obey.

Lynda, I think I know what you're saying and it makes perfect sense (to me anyway)

the BNP wouldnt exist if people didnt vote for them, so the big question is , why do people feel they have to vote BNP, are there problems with race that the main parties are to scared to deal with, are there problems with race that we are to scared to talk about, because we get accused of being rascist, lets get these problems out into the open and deal with them in a democratic manner, that way people wont need to vote BNP and they will be confined to the dustbin.

If another party stepped into No10 tomorrow,they would still take on the problems that already are there,as they wont disappear overnight or weeks or months,and why all blame is being laid at GB or just Labour is misconcepted as all parites were to blame in this claims fiasco,but some are getting out whipping sticks because they expected their leader to make consessions just for them.!

The media dont help by beating hornets nests either.

Merlin,
Perhaps youve not read E Powells papers and speeches from the 1960's concerning Birmingham.Wolverhampton and Walsall, it smacks which way his thinking went on Immigrants.!

following on from Lynda's comment, I always think of Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister - I'm sure that the government of the day has nowhere near as much power as the Civil Service, the Old Boys Network and the Establishment. It may have been a comedy but I reckon there was a lot of truth in it!
Maz. XX

Over the past few weeks I have been transferring videos on to DVD and there was a set of Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister. We watched some of them and we did agree that it applied equally today and that was before the expense scandal came out.

I always did say that Tony would get out when it suited him and leave Gordon to carry the can. He did and he handed him a poisoned chalice.

I have only ever voted labour once and that was when Harold Wilson promised price and wages freeze. He carried out 50% of his promise - he froze the wages!