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RIGHT AUDREY, AFTER MUCH TRAWLING I CAN GIVE YOU THE ANSWER SO MANY ARE UNWILLING TO OFFER, RE 1911 CENSUS
WHY ON THIS SITE I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ANSWER ARE SO NOT WILLING TO GIVE.
1. IF YOU WISH TO SEARCH 1911 CENSUS NOW (THIS YEAR) THEN YOU NEED TO SIGN UP AND BUY CEDITS TO FINDMYPAST. COM.
COST OF ONE CENSUS RECORD £3.95.
2. GENES REUNITED OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE RIGHTS TO THIS CENSUS AND FROM WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME, MAY NOT HAVE FOR SOME YEARS.
3. SOME SITES OUTSIDE OF UK SEEM TO HAVE THIS INFO AVAILABLE TO THEM
4. THE CENSUS HAS BEEN RELEASED TO FMP EARLY TO START MONEY ROLLING IN BEFORE ITS REAL RELEASE.
5. THE RELEASE DATE APPEARS TO BE 100 YEARS ON (SO 2012)
6. I AM GUESSING BUT I BELIEVE MANY SITES WILL BE UP AND RUNNING THEN AND A WEE BIT OF COMPETITION MAY WELL OFFER CHEAPER SUBS.
7. MANY PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF (GR) WILL SEE A REAL POTENTIAL IN THE MARKET TO BUILD THERE OWN SITES.
8. WAITING 3 YEARS COULD SAVE ME AND YOU A FEW QUID.
9. IF MONEY IS NO OBJECT TO SOME HOPEFULLY THAT INFO MAY FLOW DOWN TO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE WHO CAN'T QUITE AFFORD MUCH MORE THAN THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING.
10. DOING IT THE OLD WAY PULLING OUT OR BUYING CERTS MAY GIVE US MORE INFO AND BE A WEE BIT CHEAPER. IF WE ARE WILLING TO PUT SOME HARD WORK IN GOING TO LOCAL REG OFFICE ETC.
11. THATS SOMETHING I PLANNED TO DO ANYWAY TO FIRM UP MY TREE..AND £7 FOR A CERT WITH LOADS OF INFO WE CAN KEEP AS REAL PROOF.
12. I AM GUESING THE PRICE OF CERTS WILL FLY UP IN THE NEXT YEAR LETS SEE.

You do NOT need to sign up with findypast to see the 1911 census

go straight to the website

www.1911census.co.uk

you can search for free and buy credits to view transcripts
(it is linked to findmypast)


see page one of this thread where I said this before.

as a postscript to this thread I dont recall seing this, that the access for the 1911 census is through this URL.(below)........searching is free but viewing pages is charged for...
I happened to have some credits with F M P, and they were used to look at various pages...........

URL is

http://www.1911census.co.uk/


Bob

I think Brian's refering to the freedom of information act, thing is any agency you ask for your or a family member you have power of attorney for can levie a fee for copying costs plus mailing charges, and if it takes more than a certian length of time I think they can charge you for the working time its taken.

Brian you've clearly been lucky having reasonable success early on with certain branches, but no ones going to have done all your family history instantly there for you, unless you have a family member thats put the time and effort in before you.


At the end of the day I accept there are costs to be covered storing and processing these records to make access eaiser, I don't expect it to be there for free in the format I require.. Anyone who does needs to get there backside to the records office for a day, try doing things the old fashioned way, as this will make you realise what a bargin your subcription fee's are.

Having done a history degree which meant trawling through old records in various formats, I am grateful companies have taken the intiative and put the information online, saves travel and the frustraightion of only being allowed to use a pencil.

Maggie posted a thank you yesterday -

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1132321

Hi Island,

He sounds like an enthusiastic newby. Programmes like WDYTYA make it seem so easy don't they - they really should make it clear to people how much hard work and expense is involved

Yes - on Page 1

i have done so well with other family members it's a shame that my own family name has been so hard to proove details of i've come to a wall that the 1911 census would proove or disproove. unfortunately my father went all his life without illness and when he retired was diagnosed with parkinsons disease then altzeimers and the info i would like isn't available to me. as good as my dads sense of humour is recalling is so impossible i don't push.
birth cert for his dad will let me move forward and thats my next day off
cheers guys good hunting.

i have at least seven relations i have googled and prooven so many ways, when i found 1 i was amazed after 1 month into research.
to find seven just blew me away. i have found cemetarys for many family members re 1 and 2 world war including one in singapore which my mother in law went to this year, i was able to give her the location of her fathers memorial location. given she never met him has prooven the web such a great tool and all that info was free.

yeh maggie i love logic probs and google have already given me info on my g grandfather thats very interesting and a gg grandfather where i'm in contact with someone about him and a shipwreck and one my gggg grandfather with strong merchant navy connections and i can go on.
wifes grandad torpedoed in the midway after being involved in the burma railway much much more for free. and proven.

Brian,

Don't forget to Google too for the name/area you're interested in as it's surprising what can pop up. There are also quite a lot of Parish Record transcriptions on the internet, depending on the area you're researching.

Ther is a post on records office which enables a search free for all members of the one household with the same surname and it works , No doubt it will be deteleted by those and such when it is dicovered so copy and paste the tip somewhere safe I have nudged it up

Jackie

yeh me about 6 months and i don't remember trudging round to find out this info, just went online and there it was so quickly glad to be in the naughties doing this but it appears the old way will be cheaper so will have to start learning a little bit from you guys who have done it the hard way.
I work so many hours a few days of work doing it the old way will be fun and more enjoyable i guess.
will look forward on some tips from you old timers cheers.
not frightend to put the hard work in.
cheers

Brian,

The notion that you can research your family history back to Jesus with the push of a button on the internet is unfortunately a fallacy. As Joan has already stated she has been doing hers for 25 years and I have been researching mine for 11. It's very hard work, very expensive (taking into account certificates, Wills and copies of sundry other documents you might come across) but oh so satisfying

thank you maggie
like you say it's a case of waiting for a new site then where there is subscription for lower rates or travelling and getting that info.
To me discovering GR felt like wow we are moving forward in this country to fast tec to discovering our past just like the USA (BY THE WAY THEY HAVE SOME VERY CHEAP SITES EVEN TO UK INFO).
It got me so interested so quickly,
it just feels like a door has just gone up in front of me that i need quite a lot of money to unlock.
hard work and a few days off may work out cheaper now...oh well
it was looking good.
cheers maggie

I totally agree Joan. Remember the old days trudging out in all weathers to the Records Office and trawling through reel after reel of film to find that elusive ancestor. The guy who challenged to get the 1911 census released early did brilliantly yet some people are never satisfied are they.

Brian

As far as I am aware the 1911 Census is free to view as it's public information - if you can get to Kew to look at it. How many people are able to do that easily - which is my point about being happy to pay for accessibility via websites like Ancestry. If you wait another couple of years it should move to a subscription website rather than pay per view so will be much cheaper

i've seen many coments on here tonight about the other site and the small £3.95 fee to see 1 census
and it appears to me many people are happy to pay that
just shows credit crunch isn't in every ones home
cheers
would be interested in any coments of agreement

my point maggie is that if i had info on your family or past family alive or dead, that was released to the public domain from goverment or some other body .
would you be happy if i could open a web site and sale this information to other people.
maybe to some people who had no relation to you?
wouldn't i need your permission and if the answer is no,
would you be happy if some info was incorrect.
i don't mind paying for quick info but if i used this new site the same way as gr my bill would be about £1000+ by now for 6 months

Sorry Brian but what is your point. Personal information held on our ancestors would have to be requested by them - a bit difficult when they're dead!!