General Chat

Sorry Brian,
But your last post was as if we are the ones taking your money.

GR does that.

We like yourself, are members here working on our trees & helping each other.

If you have an issue about membership fees. Then you should take it up with GR & not us.

Regards,
Steve.

Brian,
The 1911 census only came out in Jan 2009. Currently its only available on pay per view.
In future yrs this probably will become available on other membership sites. As did tthe 1901 census.
You seem to be pre-occupied with the 1911 census. Why is this?

Steve.

i'm not very good at explaining myself sorry
if YOU pay about 30 something pound every half year you get to look at what you want (minus the obvious 1911 census) what this thread is debating. and you can look at say one census as many times as you like and others at just the one cost per half year by subscribing.

oh that's crafty .....you already new that and you wanted me the newbeee to add that woh
it's true though so well done (here we go then)

(GENES REUNITED IS THE BEST SITE AND DONT GO TO ANY OTHER)

do i get a discount now?????????

Hi Brian,
We've all found hurdles in searching for relatives. Often the first is finding that anchor in the near past from the available data bases, to work back from.
As a rule once you can get back to 1901, it's a lot easier with info available on line. Quite a lot of this is free.
Also there is a wealth of experienced people on GR, who can help you in your research. Whether its researching for people or offering tips & this is all done on a voluntary basis.

Regards,
Steve

sorry
amok
maybe i have not said that i pay 30+ pounds here for six months and i get to see what i want many times at no extra cost you should look into it , it's very cheap

that was my last message
sorry maggie it followed you but wasn't aimed at you so here is my note
point taken and looked at by the way.
amok avid
"Members are not obliged to help!." amok's note .
when i joint this site it wasn't for self gratification.
amok iv'e demanded your help and would not.
help is given freely, in the uk it is a personal want to help people and enjoy the fact you are able to help people, i presently am training a gentelman from st lucia to learn my job. I love and enjoy passing this knowledge on this is the british way i beleive. i get huge satisfaction teaching people. like my father and his. its enjoyable. some people at work don't feel the same, they feel that the people they train will take their job. i'm good at my job and don't have the same fear.
how sad my workmates are

Hi Brian,
FreeBMD are transcibing all births, marriages & deaths for England & Wales 1837 to 1983. They're currently up to about 1930's. Home page: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
Search page: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

To obtain certs, go to GRO: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
These cost £7 ea. Other sites will charge a lot more for them.

Ancestry....pricey to subscibe to, but contains a lot of records. Currently has all England & Wales births from 1837 to 2005 on its data base.

Regards,
Steve.

my final note on audreys thread is
if you are new to genes reunited or tree searching or genealogy in general
DONT ADMIT TO BEING NEW , SAY YOU HAVE BEEN AT IT FOR MANY YEARS.
it's funny newbeeees can some times be older than they let on any way.
thats not true in my case though, and you wonder how people know that to be the case.??????????
weird

Sorry Brian but you don't appear to be listening . In answer to when the 1911 Census will come to this site refer to page 1 - NEVER - Genes Reunited do not have any records, they just pass you on to other websites. In answer to how you can view the 1911 Census cheaply, refer to page whatever where I told you it can be viewed free at Kew.

ok lets start again
i am a neewbie
i am trying to to learn how to tap into the 1911 census at a mininmum cost.
sorry if i sound cheap to anyone but times are hard for me
hard work i have learned is always the cheapest way,
and i'm not afraid of hard work.
i like audrey want to know when uk 1911 census may come to this site
i have had no answer yet.
1912 is my guess?
i would like to know if anyone has the answer
i would like to thank people who have offered me alternatives to gaining info but the ones i have looked at are very costly.
if i had more money than i would be happy to frow it at the other site just to curb my inpatience.
i have not so i will wait
i did think that 1911 census would appear on this site this year and i am told i am wrong on that one to.
when i finally receive details on my grandad i will add them to my site in the hope that he really was my grandad.
i'm told i can proove my real gene by offering a sample of dna and there is a family member that they can cross with.
i am happy just to assume as thats quite a good assumption.
as if my grandad isn't my grandad i'm well never going to find my real grandad. i relly on assumption because thats all that is on offer. but that's better than nothing.
brian
any help i would love
any one unhappy about me being a newbee i offer my appoligies
any help i have been given thank you.

dear maggie
i did not aim this at you its just that on this site some people are so unwilling to offer advice but happy to critocise and that didn't mean you maggie i'm so happy for the advice you gave me , there are just 1 or 2 people who won't help and just run you down for being only 6 months into it
def not you maggie

genes is logic that's all and so easy it is now ,
back to audrey who list this thread she just wants to tap into like me and formulate then proove at the lowest cost thats not wrong surely .
gain info proove re relatives by a few certs have something to pass to your loved ones , if there like me they will forge on not beleiving info untill they have prooven for themselves.
if my my grandad wasn't my grandad no computer available now will proove this, and yet apparently you can proove youre genes but thats anouther site. so we work with what we have today.

Sorry Brian but I have to disagree with you yet again. I have a website with well over 10,000 people on it and many yet to put on as I'm doing a one place study. Everything on my website is proven via parish records, certificates, Wills and sundry other records going back to the 1400's which I have spent a lot of time, energy and money tracking down.

To be honest your comment about people not helping was uncalled for - many with years of experience have replied to you with very useful advice, although after six months of researching you seem to know more than they do.

dear amok avid

WTYDYA
sorry some one already warned me about this wdytya ,this is the bbc prog where some celeb travels up and down britain and then to europe then over to the usa then back to uk then back down to turkey or whatever.
do you beleive there doing all this themselves (whoops) cost me and you the licence payer shed loads thats not genes research sorry if you think it is . even as a (NEWBEEE) thats not how i want to learn a load of info someone else has discovered.
this is the real deal sorry.
brian

Brian,

To do it properly certificates should be bought for all main lines anyway to be sure you're keeping on the right track - the price of certificates is nothing at all to do with the cost of websites such as Ancestry.

To pme
your so right re information about census's etc
we all have to beleive the tree we are searching is real, and proof, and all manner of yeah that was my grandad or great grandad.
But reality is that many trees can be so wrong. and some relating to just parents.
Its all an assumpstion no real proof, for obvious reason
and when i see some trees holding 10000 relatives like you i have to question how could you proove so much info in one lifetime.
my site has included family pictures and you can see family resemblences. but even that's not 100%
your so right

dear pme
if sites online are costly than people will revert paying £7 for certs
and this will increase, and when it does to my knowledge the £7 cost may be increased to meet demand.
brian thanks for info

sorry pme
i didn't wish to offend you
ive changed my caps setting and i hope you find this better reading
very sorry.
I very much understand and appreciate people have worked so hard learning their skill and passing it on to others so forgive my lack of knowledge with the genes research you are aware i guess by your remark that i am what you older guys call a (newbee). still learning every day the way to work and happy to receive any advice thank you.
At work we have this similar understanding young chaps come and work with me, and i share as much info as i can with them. But like my children i have always given them a great deal of respect. common courtesy goes a long way in my job. And have never been rude to them re their lack of knowledge.
one day they well be teaching my son and i would hope they would show him the respect that i show them.
any helpfull advice is always better than crittisisum.

Brain

for starters- STOP YELLING- typing in caps is considereed yelling, so unless you have a good reason to type in caps its polite not to.

You are not the fountain of knowledge, I believe Audery was pointed in the right direction, and informed of the threads that contain all the informaiton you have just reguritated.

I will tell you this even paying to see orginal documents will be cheaper for me than ordering every certificate that could be my great grandad, as he had a common name, just wish they'd get on with releasing the rest of yorkshire.

Your implication certs will go up in price as far as I know is completely unfounded, as they'd have done this when the 1901 census was released or even in January when the counties they had scanned to date were released.

By the way, certificates are not 'real proof' and should be treated with the same sceptisim any other source would be, as they are dependent on our ancestors being honest and unlike today they didn't have to provide evidence providing who they are.

I think stating people are unwilling to give answers is the perfect way to annoy a lot of people who put a lot of time and effort into helping people on here, please respect their knowledge and experience rather than sounding off like a know it all teenager.

IN REPLY TO JOAN
THANKS BY THE WAY, ITS NOT THAT I DONT WANT TO PAY
I MADE A DECISSION 6 MONTHS AGO TO PAY A SUB TO (GR) THINKING THAT THE CENSUS WOULD BE PUBLISHED HERE WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED. I'M HAPPY TO PAY BECAUSE SOME ONE HAS TO TYPE IN ALL THE INFO GENERATED FROM CENSUS'S ECT AND THAT COST MONEY, WHAT I DIDN'T REALISE WAS THAT SOME OTHER COMPANY OR SITE COULD GRAB THIS INFO FOR THEIR OWN, AND FORCING US TO CHANGE SITE TO CARRY ON....
I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD COME TO (GR)
SORRY IF I AM EASILY LED AND A BIT KNEW BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, I WONDER HOW MANY OTHERS LIKE ME THINK THAT THIS IS THE CASE.