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The mystery of disappearing ancestors

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SilverLady

SilverLady Report 6 Aug 2008 16:45

Yes I have some missing rellies as well. Can not find them on the census no death certs for them so where the heck did they go?
One in particular is giving me grief as some others have him tagged on to their tree but I just have a sixth sense that we are looking for 2 different people.
So Thomas Gunter come out from wherever you have been hiding. LOL


Love and Peace
Marianne.x

Deanna

Deanna Report 6 Aug 2008 16:29

Oh I have a few of them.

I have a Henry McVay, and his entire family.... but I cannot find him past 18/51/61/71 either. He is ther because I have his entire family... right up to ME!
Gotta be there.
But yes, the thrill of finding them.... I could not describe it.
Deanna X

Anne

Anne Report 6 Aug 2008 16:29

I have had this problem as well but Ancestry do because of illegible writing sometimes get the surname completely wrong. I have put in just the christian name and date and place of birth etc in the year that they were missing and trawled through all the likely surnames.I have had some success this way although it can be time consuming.The other reason is a remarriage as a lot can happen in ten years and the widows often married again quite quickly as there was no state help then and it could mean the work house if the family were in dire need.

Joanne in Burgess Hill™

Joanne in Burgess Hill™ Report 6 Aug 2008 16:23

Oh, and I forgot to mention David Williams of Wales. Not so much lost, but where would you start looking? Decided he can remain unresearched.

(¯`*•.¸*Karen on the Coast*(¯`*•.¸

(¯`*•.¸*Karen on the Coast*(¯`*•.¸ Report 6 Aug 2008 16:22

my g g g grandfather,William Wallis, was born 1843......he's on 51 and 61 census. can't find him on 71 but in 1873 he has a son in Bristol....can't find a marriage for William and in 1881 his son is living in Portsmouth with an aunt.....both William and his "wife" nowhere to be seen on any census till 1901 where William in the workhouse in Portsmouth.

so bloomin frustrating,

Karen x

Joanne in Burgess Hill™

Joanne in Burgess Hill™ Report 6 Aug 2008 16:20

I have a father and son.
William Old Massey. On the 1881 census his family is listed, with his wifes occupation described as 'ships carpenters wife at sea'.
I can't find the ship, or even the census either side with him listed.
His father was a lighthouse keeper in Pembroke Dock, but I have absolutely no other information.

All the information I have has come from William Old Massey wedding certificate. Even that listed his age as 'full'

Bev

Bev Report 6 Aug 2008 16:11

mine are nowhere to be found on the 1851 census

i have a theory as to where they might be


but need to know if pubs were enumerated to prove/disprove it

lol

Bev

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 6 Aug 2008 16:11

We're idiotsDeanna in the nicest possible way. and it is fun when we solve these problems.

Deanna

Deanna Report 6 Aug 2008 16:09

Work work work... and what do we do for fun???

We work.......... are we idiots or what?

Deanna X

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 6 Aug 2008 16:07

Deanna, well they are still on my tree because I know they existed but I have been unable to 'kill off' Abraham. And unable to prove that Seth was a R Marine.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 6 Aug 2008 16:06

Oh yes and to add further to the mystery> My Gt grandfather Seth Allen on marriage cert 1869, Censuses 1871 & 1881, daughter and son's birth certs states occupation as RMLI or Private Marine or Royal marines.
His death cert states Pensioner RMLI & tailor (Master) and his wife's death cert states widow of Seth Allen a pensioner RMLI and master Tailor.

I have paid a researcher to look for his RM records and she has been unable to find absolutely nothing. She has searched all the records she possibly can.

So another mystery in the same line.

any suggestions?

Deanna

Deanna Report 6 Aug 2008 16:03

Ann.... all of mine are lost before 17.. something or other! ;-0)

Do you mean from our trees?
Deanna X

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 6 Aug 2008 16:00

Check Susan's request 8 Aug please
Anyone else got ancestors in their tree who have 'disappeared off the face of the earth?

My GtGt grandfather Abraham Allen appears to have gone to France (for reasons unknown) in c1841, never to be seen again. His wife Ellen also has disappeared in 1842, she appears to have gone to France to join him. plus all her children, Alfred, Martha and Thomas.
c1845 Children return from France, no mention of Ellen anywhere, but an extra child Seth Allen age 8 in the workhouse in 1851, born in France British Subject (my Gt grandfather) A further child appears with Martha age given as 17 when it should be 19/20, in the workhouse in 1851, William born Belper 1847. On Williams marriage cert in 1868 he gives Abraham Allen as his father but he could equally of course be Martha's child and just used Abraham's name.

So, did Abraham die in France?, did he return to Britain and die before the 1851? (There is no sign of him or Ellen Allen in the 1851) Can't find a death for him either. did Ellen come back a widow and re- marry? (I have just sent for a marriage cert for an Ellen Allen in the hope that she did). any ideas anyone?

So has anyone else got ancestors they have 'lost'?