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The mystery of disappearing ancestors

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AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 8 Aug 2008 15:03

Anyone else?

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 8 Aug 2008 14:11

Am I dreaming? Was there a post on here asking for anyone who could find William Kibble gloucester or was that on another thread?

Kim suggested there may be something on Morelands match factory in the main Glos museum so i wandered round there this morning. I now wonder if the info will be in the Folk Museum so will look in there next time. If nothing else I enjoyed my look around the museum as not been there for ages.


Susan. good idea if I can get people to check back.

Ann
Glos

Susan719813

Susan719813 Report 8 Aug 2008 13:10

Just a suggestion......It may help if you all 'edit' your posts and give a few details about where you have already searched....also if you have access to Ancestry etc.

In the wee hours when I have less to do....maybe I, and others can bookmark this thread and take another look.

Perhaps we can all look for some-one else's brick wall.....I always did find it easier finding other peoples ancestors rather than my own.

I would also be interested if anyone has any success.


Great thread Ann :-)

Susan
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Susan
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Louise

Louise Report 8 Aug 2008 12:57

I have 2 missing ancestors - Solomon Cooke born @1802 (vanished after being released from Huntingdon prison in 1841 leaving his wife Phoebe destitute) - where did he go? Not on 1951 census and can't find his death. He wife had to ask the parish for relief money, so she didn't know where he went. There are quite a few people on here who are descended from him and still asking the same question after all this time !
Also Willis Roy Clarke aka Billy Carlton, a musician and music hall artist who vanished after 1931. He had links with South Africa, and Gloucestershire, and worked on cruise liners, but no-one in his family ever heard from him after this date and his wife had to have him declared dead so that she could remarry several year later. Looked through deaths here and overseas in the old books at the old Family record centre, CWGC site for WW2 - zilch! Found him on a 1931 working cruise trip ship's list to South Africa (with his wife - I even have a copy of his ticket stubb from the trip!) but nothing afterwards on his own. My uncle and his brother (both in their late 80s) would dearly love to know what happened to their dad before it's too late!

dutch

dutch Report 8 Aug 2008 12:10

Ann i you pm your email address will send you copy from the newspaper,if thats ok

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 8 Aug 2008 08:35

Joyce, was the Sunday news a local paper or a national?

Ann
Glos

dutch

dutch Report 8 Aug 2008 08:27

it is Ann ive read right thru trying to find Mary there but then im stuck,i did so wanted to fined her grave but unless i knew when she died the cementry could,nt help and also no last name,ive even wrote to Sandhurst but same thing,what ashame her sister who was my ggggrandmother did,nt give last name,someone said it may be in the papers archives but dont no how to go about it
Dutchx

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 7 Aug 2008 21:51

thanks joyce, sounds interesting

dutch

dutch Report 7 Aug 2008 21:11

its the Angels of Albion,women of the Indian Mutiny wrote by Jane Robinson,its about what the british women went thru bought the book of Amazom its english

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 7 Aug 2008 21:04

that is a complicated one Joyce. maybe somebody on here will have an idea. As Julie Ann asked, what was the book about?

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 7 Aug 2008 21:00

wos that about dutch that book

dutch

dutch Report 7 Aug 2008 20:58

Hi Ann
yes i did but nothing i had her on 1851 census with her family she was born in america but were i dont no,she was 15 in 1851 and two of her sisters were born in the U.S.A and another sister and brother were born in Brompton Kent,and the parents were Irish,i even bought the book Angels of albion as british women were mention but nothing
Dutchx

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 7 Aug 2008 20:48

Dutch, Joyce, have you tried to find a marriage for your GGG Aunt?

I thought I was the only one with absentee rellies. Good to know I am not! well not for tthose who have lost people but good to know I am not a lone voice in the wilderness.

Bacardi, where have you looked fr your Marine and what years was he a marine? where was he 'stationed'? Mine was Portsmouth, lived in Gosport.

An
Glos

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 7 Aug 2008 20:34

dutch is she buried with her hubby
in military grave in camberley

Newby Kim

Newby Kim Report 7 Aug 2008 20:29

Arthur Mark Cook born 24/1/1896 Glos ,mother Ellen Cook who married a hairdresser named Jones in Kidderminster in 1900 .
Last seen in 1901 census living with his Grandfather in Bledington Gloucestershire .
Christopher Carey born 1910 Evesham Worc,s , father Thomas and brother Jeffery aged 18 months both died of TB in 1914 in Gloucestershire , mothers maiden name Robins from Winchcombe Glos , both disappear after 1914, no trace.
Henry Alfred Carey born November 1920 Evesham Worc,s , mothers name Florence , unofficially adopted through Father Hudson as a baby . The Father Hudson Society and I are trying to locate his family, although we know he was married and sadly died in 1970,s under his adoptive name to which I am not allowed access we are having a tough time.
Two wrong leads so far , now trying to contact someone who is possibly his daughter , he had a sister he knew nothing about .
Great Thread Ann
Kim

dutch

dutch Report 7 Aug 2008 20:09

this rellie i wish i could find .alady send me acopy of one of my rellies being interviewed ,the Sunday News in 1927one of my g.g.aunts was sent for by coach from Queen Victoria to have tea at the palace due to her bravery in the Indian muntiny she risked her life crawing over slain bodies to bring water to her husband,and is buried Camberley with military,but i cant find her as i dont have her married name ,only her first name was Mary what ashame
Dutch

jean,300171

jean,300171 Report 7 Aug 2008 19:54

I also have Lucy Moseley born March 1839 in kingswinford Worcester, although she claims to have been born 1841but on 1841 census she is two years old and has her baby brother Benjamin who was six weeks old with her next sighting is 1851 as a 12year old!! then she disappears untill 1881 and she turns up as Lucy Williams with husband Edward in attercliffe sheffield,no sign of a marriage any where 1888 Edward dies still in attercliffe, 1891 got her niece Harriet Dwyer staying with her { Harriet dwyer my granma 10/11years old from poplar Millwall East london} 1895 Lucy dies address given was 8 Custom Street London which was where her younger sister Hannah Tilson {second marriage} lived who was my granma's mother,problem is where was Lucy those missing years?and when and where did she marry Edward Williams as death cert states widow of Edward Williams.Jean

Bacardi

Bacardi Report 7 Aug 2008 18:54

Hi Ann in Glos

I was particularly interested in your Royal Marine/Mariner as I have one too:-) He's my great grandfather, Thomas Brown.

The only information I have about this is from an old newspaper dated 27 Sept 1901 in which his life story is printed as part of his retirement from the police force. (My mum still has a copy of the original paper).

Other than this information (which I have to assume is true as it's in the "police parade and review gossip") I cannot find any record:-(

The article even talks about him being on the Galatea in the 1860's going around the world with the then Prince of Wales, so you's think there would be someting official - unless I'm looking in all the wrong places of course!! lol

My other disappearing rellie is my Grandfather - like someone else, I have a copy of his original marriage certificate from 1924 which states he is aged 38. His details are on my dads birth certificate in 1925 and I have his death cert from 1942 but where he came from - well I've no idea. His name is Henry Finch so I've taken to emailing everyone on this site with a Henry Finch but I've not struck gold yet:-(

Happy hunting

Bacardi X

Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 7 Aug 2008 18:44

If anyone stumbles across Jessie Louise/Louisa Tocqueville dying between 1889 and 1905 I would be a very happy person. I know she existed 'cos I have her birth certificate. I have her family on the 1891 and 1901 census. She was my grandfather's sister. I know she is dead by 1905 because she is not listed on my grandfathers military attestation. (He put all his siblings and his mother as next of kin)

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 7 Aug 2008 18:20

thanks ann for adding about pearl street

its fascinating reading all these historys on here

i wish my elizabeth ann thomas had less of a common name,
all i have is that she was at 22 pearl street around1912-14 and thats all thats on my nanas birth certificate, and that elizabeth was a domestic servant

i did go on a splott website thru the bbc and found ref, to an eliza thomas who owned a pie shop in pearl street around 1900 dont know if shes a reli of hers, got no replys, the picture showed an old lady, but my lady would of been younger to have a baby

would love to find out where she went , if she were married, or got married