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FGS - Joanna ain't criticising his accent!!
having said that, however you view it, they've had some damn good publicity on here today!! Any publicity is good publicity as they say!!

Ann X

Well!!
isn't it ordinary people who shop at Tesco:-))lol

Bob Hoskins is a cockney, I'm sure that Tesco have lots of shops In the London area:-))

I much prefer to hear an accent,to be honest!

Its Called Good Advertising;-)))

Blimey Joanna, you'd have a fit if you came up to Yorkshire. Nobody pronounces their H's and haven't done for hundreds of years but I wouldn't say that everyone in Yorkshire is thick!

I was born in the 60's when everybody on the telly spoke with a plum in their mouths but I haven't ended up speaking like them, so I doubt if television has any effect on the way we speak.

I may not speak the Queen's english, but I speak proper Yorkshire, a fact of which I am very proud.

it's not how or with which accent you talk with it's what's inside that counts-
catherine
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Hmmmm - did I not post a second comment on here ?? I'm sure I did, seems to have been deleted - maybe cos i was talking like wot Londoners do LOL

Years ago late 1940's 1950's. Your accent held you back.

I was brought up in Essex, and had a bit of a twang, the first job I had in a Sales Office, a girl spoke with a plum in her mouth, but could not spell. As we were shorthand typists this was difficult for her.

I never forget she was looking in a Dictionary under 'N' . She said she could not find the word she was looking for I said what was the word she said
Pneumatic Drill.

What a laugh this caused, and it just showed that a posh accent, did'nt mean you had a brain.

Fortunately our Supervisor was an East End girl,and she went by brains, not accents.

I must agree though, some of the accents do grind, especially when they are put on.

In my opinion....................it's what you say that counts, not the accent you say it in.

Polite, kind words are the same no matter how they are are pronounced.

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My dad had a very northern accent which he never lost after coming to live in london when he was in his 20's, he used to say tomatoe's, I say tomarta's. I was born & bread in london, its my way of saying things -I didnt "talk" the same way as my dad did.
Whats wrong with that? Im not thick or uneducated.
I feel quite offended by your comments.

My daughter went to Brighton Uni, where she bacame great friends with a girl from the East End with a very strong accent. This poor girl had to put up with ignorant comments from others who, I presume came from 'good homes' in the 'commuter belt' with 'posh' accents.
Some were so 'over the line' they asked my daughter (who they mistakenly thought had a 'posh' accent) why she associated with such a common person!!
They accused daughter's friend of being thick - Duuh - she was at Uni with them. Common - this girl had 2 parents, but was brought up in Hackney - my daughter was brought up with 1 parent in a council house, and even accused the girl of 'putting on her accent'!!
Daughter's friend is now working and looking after her father, who has Altzeimers so he doesn't have to go into a home - not many 25 year olds would put their life 'on hold' like that.

It's not the way you say it, it's what you say that is important. I'd rather know a lovely person who says 'Haa naa braan caa' than a shallow figment of a human being who can't see beyond their own backside!!

maggie

Well done Joanna.

It's looks like you've fired a few people up there, me included.

Like most people I love accents and accents affect how we pronounce words, I pride myself on being able to recognise a lot of accents but I speak to thousands of people a year from all over the U.K..

My favourites are ladies accents that come from Wales or who are Geordie.

I'm anybodies for a "way ay pet" or a "there's lovely isn't it".

Ron
www.genealogyprinters.com

With the local accent come the sound of certain words,,,,
No true East Ender/or other places would ever sound as saying Tomatoes,Potatoes.,,

I really don't think it's accents we are criticising here - I for one have a Welsh accent - I'm proud of it, and I just love all regional accents. It's sloppy speaking that was the subject of the thread. The world would be very boring indeed without all the different regional accents we have in this country

Joanna,

Im sure if you contact Jamie Oliver he maybe able to tell you that if as a child his speech impediment was tried to be corrected,,,,,,and its rude of you to presume others wise,

His accent he has aquired from where his upbringing was,,

And you obviousley dont know the landuage of the old East Enders....where Bob was brought up.....why should he or anyone else aquire an accent which clearly would be false to their upbringing,,,,

has SIr Michael Caine changed his upbringing accent,,,,,,no he speaks the same as hes always done ,,

Surley its not possible for us all to speak the same!!...we all come form diff parts....i'm the first to admitt i really do not have a posh accent by any means....but i do treat people the way i wish to be treated my self.........surely it's more about the personallity than the accent,,,,,i love accents...Rachel..xxxx

I really couldn't care less how someone speaks so long as I can understand them. How many kids watch the adverts anyway? I know my two don't. Kids are more likely to watch television programmes than adverts so complain about them instead. I'd love to hear the actors on Eastenders talk in standard English, I might even tune in to hear them lol

I can't help but think how boring life would be if we all spoke perfect Queen's English. I love the fact that we are all so different. I don't see anything wrong with how Jamie Oliver speaks - that is what makes him his unique self and the same goes for Bob Hoskins and others. You only have to hear the voice and you immediately recognise the celebrity.

I would never put someone down just because they don't pronounce their "H's" or because they speak with a cockney-ish accent. To me, that would be snobbery, thinking someone is less worthy or less educated because they don't speak textbook English.

Preventing celebrities like Jamie from being used in advertising just because of the way they speak would not suddenly encourage young children to become "well spoken" - you only have to visit any London school and you will find the majority of teachers do not speak the Queen's English themselves! So we can't really blame the celebrities for the way our children speak. It is a regional, cultural thing.

I think we should embrace the diversity of the British culture and appreciate each person for the individual that they are. The main thing is that we are all able to communicate, not the way in which we do it.

Just my point of view - Athena

Jamie Oliver has done a huge amount to try to improve our school children's diets & spent his own money on a restaurant to train employed teenagers.

For goodness sake leave the poor bloke alone instead of suggesting he changes the way he speaks.

Claire (who has a 1/2 London accent)

as long as people have good manners who cares how they speak.
i would not be able to text so quick if i have to text in proper english lol
plus i cant spell anyway lol
Rose without a plum in her gob

It'd be boring if we all sounded exactly the same.



Another former S'arf Londoner!

Isn't the way we each speak down to where we come from and the local dialect therein???

Like Bob Hoskins - he's a Londoner, most of those born and bred in London talk similarly to him to some degree..............

You can take the man out of London but you can't take London out of the man lol


McAnne (former S'arf Londoner)