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Hi
I wondered if anyone would know if 'Sister In Law' meant anything other than how we view it today back in 1890??

I have traced ancestors on the 1891 census and she is listed as the head's Sister In Law but I cannot trace any connection...... (they could of course have been fibbing!!)

Here is the census:
1891 England Census
about Thomas Elliott
Name: Thomas Elliott
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Limehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 8/12
Minnie Beasley 15
Rebecca Beasley 32
Thomas Elliott 56
Sybil Taylor 8


Thomas's wife died in 1886 and was called Betsy but I cannot trace a marriage for them and so i'm unsure of her maiden name.

In 1901 Thomas changes his name to Thomas Beasley and is living at the same address as in 1891 (again no marriage for Rebecca or Thomas)

Can anyone else see any connection between Thomas Elliott and Rebecca Beasley (born Sarah Rebecca Beasley)???

Any help most appreciated

I believe Sister in Law was often used in place of step sister.
Do you have the earlier census?

1871.....Rebecca has a sister Betsey

Name: Rebecca Beasley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Gender: Female
Where born: Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Stewkley
Town: Stewkley
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Beasley 20
Betsey Beasley 18
George Beasley 15
Jonathan Beasley 47
Rebecca Beasley 12

Reg

1881 England Census
about Thomas Elliott
Name: Thomas Elliott
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsy
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 1 St Hildas Ter (Abbey)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Platelayer

Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 16b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bealy 22
Edmund Bealy 15
Minnie Bealy 5
Betsy Elliott 48
Thomas Elliott 40


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1871 England Census
about Thomas Elliot
Name: Thomas Elliot
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsy
Gender: Male
Where born: Irvinghoe, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Elliot 31
Thomas Elliot 37

1861 England Census
about Thomas Elliott
Name: Thomas Elliott
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsey
Gender: Male
Where born: Horton, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Ivinghoe
Ecclesiastical parish: Oxford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Ivinghoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Betsey Elliott 28
Thomas Elliott 27


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Thanks for helping.

Reg - I think it more likely that the Betsy could be Rebecca's Aunt Betsy (Elizabeth) - Her father sister as the ages more or less match but again I cannot trace any marriage.

Note the Minnie Bealy on the 1881 - The Minnie Beasley shown on the 1891 is Rebecca's daughter as I have her BC (Father unknown and Rebecca Unmarried)

Any advice on how i can work this out?

Does this help? It's from BVRI:

ELLIOTT, Thomas Marriage
Wife: Betsy BEESLEY
Marriage Date: 16 Oct 1854 Recorded in: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England
Husband's Father: William ELLIOTT
Wife's Father: John BEESLEY
Source: FHL Film 1042381 Dates: 1813 - 1881

Thats It!!!!
Oh Wow - Where did you find that? Whats BVRI?
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!

BVRI is British Vital Records Index, a set of 16 cd's that you purchase from LDS Church through the Familysearch site. They're extracted from parish records so are reliable.
Glad I could help.
Margaret

From FreeBMD:

Marriages Dec 1854 (99%)
Astling Thomas Leighton Buzzard 3b 907 Scan available - click to view
Elliott Thomas Leighton B 3b 907 Scan available - click to view
Green Eliza Leighton Buzzard 3b 907

I checked Ancestry BMDs. Betsey shows on there - twice - once as Betsey Beesley and once as Betsy Beesley. I suggest, if you're planning to order the marriage cert not putting her first name on the form. Maybe just use his name.

I have to say, Wendy, that I don't recommend buying them. You have to be really lucky to get a hit. I've never been able to find one of my family on them.
However, go to Familysearch.
Click on "Order/Download Products" on Blue Bar at top.
Click on "Software & Databases"
Click on "Vital Records Indexes"
It quotes $20 US but I believe it's quite a bit more with postage & handling.
Margaret

This link shows "local distribution centres" plus phone numbers (3 in UK).
http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/LDSDomestic?storeId=10151&langId=-1&page=Europe

$20 is only about a tenner, so if you can get it with minimal postage it sounds worth it if it save just one wasted journey to a distant records office.

Rob