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My ancestor seems to be down twice on the census and just wanted to check whether this was normal? He got married in 1854 to Catherine Hodge, but he's living with her and 2 children as man and wife in the 1851 census, profession engine man.
However, he's also down with his family as unmarried and tin miner.
It made me think it was the wrong family, despite names, ages etc all matching. But then in 1861 the father is also down as engineer in tin mine (engineer is the father's profession on the marriage cert)
so does this mean it is the right family but for some reason he was listed twice?

Thanks

Laura

Hi Laura
I have struck a similar instance in my own family tree but one of my rellies was down as a visitor in one household but also listed in their home residence.
But if you give us his name and details then one of us can check it out and give a more informed opinion.
Maria

John Eustice born c1828

1851 England Census
about John Eustice
Name: John Eustice
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Gwinear, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Towednack
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Penzance
Sub-registration district: Uny Lelant
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Eustice 21
Elizabeth Eustice 2 Mo
Jane Eustice 2
John Eustice 23

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and the other :-

1851 England Census
about John Eustace
Name: John Eustace
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Christiana
Gender: Male
Where born: Crowan, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Redruth
Town: Redruth
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Redruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
Christiana Eustace 41
George Eustace 18
Jesse Eustace 3
John Eustace 45
John Eustace 22
Joseph Eustace 9
Soquia Eustace 6
William Eustace 14

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1841

1841 England Census
about John Eustice
Name: John Eustice
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Helston
Hundred: Kerrier
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Helston
Sub-registration district: Helston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Eustice 11
Christian Eustice 30
Christian Eustice 16
Elizabeth Eustice 2
George Eustice 6
John Eustice 30
John Eustice 13
William Eustice 4

His wife is causing me some problems too, Catherine Hodge.

Her father is George, and a coastguard. But I can't find them in 1841 (or her father in 1851) and when I sear on Family History Online I can't seem to find a baptism for her although I think I may have found a marriage for the parents.

Laura

You need to check how many Johns there are.
1851
John Eustace John,Christiana abt 1829 Crowan, Cornwall, England Son Redruth Cornwall
1851
John Eustice Catherine abt 1828 Gwinear, Cornwall, England Head Towednack Cornwall

They are born in different places.

1861
John Eustice Jr Catherine abt 1831 Crowan, Cornwall, England Head Helston Cornwall
John Eustice Catherine abt 1828 Gwinear, Cornwall, England Head Uny Lelant Cornwall

1861

The John with Catherine in 1851
John Eustice
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Gwinear, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Uny Lelant
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Penzance
Sub-registration district: Uny Lelant
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Eustice 31
Catherine Eustice 2
Elizabeth Eustice 10
Henry Eustice 5
Jane Eustice 13
John Eustice 33
John Eustice 8
Rebecca Eustice 2 Mo

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1588; Folio: 100; Page: 19; GSU roll: 542836.

The John son of John in 1851??

John Eustice Jr
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Crowan, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Helston
Town: Helston
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Helston
Sub-registration district: Helston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Eustice 3
Catherine Eustice 23
Catherine Eustice 2
John Eustice 30
John Eustice 5

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1572; Folio: 84; Page: 21; GSU roll: 542833.

Do you have your ancestor on a later census to check the age and birthplace of Catherine?

Andy

It's definitely the one with the child Rebecca, although now I'm worried I've got the wrong cert, if there's 2 possibilities. Although when I searched I could only find one marriage with a John Eustice and a Catherine (Hodge)

The info I have for Catherine is that she was born in Zennor around 1830.

I've got the wrong certificate. Just checking FreeBMD again with the phonetic button on (I MUST remember to do that!) - there's also a marriage in Redruth in 1846 to a Catherine Thomas. Which would make sense as to why they were down as married in 1851.

I feel like such an idiot!

PS_ Catherine Thomas was born 1839 in Zennor according to 1841 census.

I've found Catherine Thomas with (I'm guessing) a gran, Catherine Thomas in 1841. However in 1851 she's still with the family, whereas She would have been married by then according to the 1846 marriage.

Argh! I'm getting confused now, maybe I should give up and get on with the housework I'm meant to be doing!

Have you not got a birth cert for one of the children?
That would give the mmn.

Andy

According to the IGI there are baptisms in Helston for children of John Eustis and Catherine Hodge Anna Maria 1858, Catherine 1859 and a son John born 1856. They are submitted records but they do correspond to the 'other' john and Catherine not the ones with Rebecca.

Andy

Not yet, I've just ordered 7 certs so have to wait till payday. I always try and go through everything else first before ordering certs, but that would have saved me time and money! I will be ordering Rebecca Eustice's cert as that's my ancestor.

Laura