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I believe I have traced an ancestor on 1871 census who is listed on vessel 'Rinaldo' .. at sea.
How can I find out 1. if this is correct ancestor and 2. more info about the vessel. I tried googling the ships name but am now confused!

Hi,
You prob can get info online so hope someone on GR can help but if not found this book and the link is below which contains the 1871 census and the Rinaldo.


Royal Navy Ships at Sea and in Ports Abroad in the 1871 Census


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Census entries giving details on crew Name, Rank, Condition (married or single), Age and Place of Birth. Covers piece numbers RG10/5779-5785.
Vessels Included:
Adventure, Algernine, Antelope, Avon, Barrosa, Basilisk, Beacon, Blanche, Boxer, Bristol, Bullfinch, Cadmas, Calidonia, Chanticleer, Cherub, Cockatrice, Cockchafer, Columbine, Cossack, Cracker, Crocodile, Danae, Defence, Dove, Dryad, Dwarf, Eclipse, Egmont, Elk, Enterprize, Fawn, Firm, Flora, Fly, Forte, Frances, Gladiator, Grasshopper, Growler, Hibernia, Hornet, Icarus, Immortalite, Jaseur, Juno, Lapwing, Lee, Leren, Lord Warden, Lynt, Magpie, Malabar, Midge, Minstrel, Myronidou, Narcissus, Industry, Invincible, Newport, Nimble, Niobe, Nymphe, Ocean, Opossum, Pandora, Pert, Philomel, Pigeon, Plover, Prince Consort, Princess Charlotte, Pylades, Raccoon, Rapid, Rattlesnake, Rinaldo, Ringdove, Rocket, Rosario, Royal Alfred, Royal Oak, Royalist, Salamis, Charybidis, Galatea.

ISBN: 1-86150-944-8

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On 1871-07-16 Captain Visier of the Dutch vessel Aurora spotted the flagpole which the Megaera's crew had erected and Lt. Lewis Jones sailed with her to Surabaya, Java, which they reached on 1871-08-02. He despatched telegrams to the British Consul in Batavia (Jakarta) and to the Royal Navy Commodore in Hong Kong, who ordered HMS Rinaldo to sail to the rescue

What's the name of your relative?

Name of relative is John Dowsett

Thanks Michelle. Something to think about.

For reference 1871 census

Name: Jno Dowsett
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Boy 1 Class (Boy)
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: At Sea
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England

Registration district: Royal Navy
Sub-registration district: Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel: Rinaldo

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5784; Folio: 95; Page: 9; GSU roll: 895851.

MB

Thanks Mummy Bear

Interestingly on the night (Sunday 2nd April 1871) of the census HMS Rinaldo was at:

Lat 9 53 N
Long 109 58 E

Which is somewhere in the south china sea http://www.satsig.net/maps/sat-view-of-lat-long.htm

MB

Do you know the names of his parents?

Is this John with his wife in 1881

Name: John W. Dowsett
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy M.
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Minster in Sheppey
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 9 Clyde Ter
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Seaman R N

Registration district: Sheppey
Sub-registration district: Minster
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John W. Dowsett 28
Lucy M. Dowsett 28

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 979; Folio: 139; Page: 43; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341232.

Again in 1891

Name: John W Dowsett
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy M
Gender: Male
Where born: Marwood, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice M Dowsett 9
Emil F Dowsett 6
John C Dowsett 2
John W Dowsett 37
Kate L Dowsett 8
Lucy M Dowsett 38

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 480; Folio 36; Page 66; GSU roll: 6095590.

His marriage to Lucy

Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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Cass Lucy Mariano Camberwell 1d 1201
Dowsett John William Camberwell 1d 1201

You'll need to obtain his marriage certificate if you want to be sure that 'this' John ties in with info that you already know and is 'your' relative.

MB

Looks like one of their son's joined the Navy as well -- his service record can be purchased for £3.50

Name Dowsett, William Richard Cass
Official Number: J8219
Place of Birth: Peckham, London
14 July 1894 ADM 188/663

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7079326&queryType=1&resultcount=38

MB

Just found Johns record - again £3.50
Name Dowsett, John
Official Number: 69166
Place of Birth: Norwood, Surrey
5 May 1853 ADM 188/53

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6815969&queryType=1&resultcount=38

MB

1901 Census

Name: John Dowsett
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Dowsett 2
Alice Dowsett 19
John Dowsett 47
John Dowsett 12
Kate Dowsett 18
Lucy Dowsett 47
Wm Dowsett 6

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 513; Folio: 64; Page: 22.

1861 Census

Name: John Dowsett
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Julia
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Household Members: Name Age
Alice A Dowsett 2
James Dowsett 3 Mo
John Dowsett 7
Joseph Dowsett 4
Julia Dowsett 45
Thomas Dowsett 48
William Dowsett 11

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 450; Folio: 77; Page: 40; GSU roll: 542640

MB

Lakes Lass.

If you search for HMS Rinaldo and not just Rinaldo, you'll find it was a Screw Sloop, built in 1860 and 1871 Ship HMS Rinaldo, bombarding Salangore Malacca (painting).

Hope this helps.

If you apply for his naval record it will give you the period of time he spent on each ship which will confirm (or not) whether he was away at census time.

My grandfather's records show his address at time of signing up which, again, might match up with earlier census info for family.

Plus you might get details re any tattoos or distinguishing marks - and it includes his height, chest measurement and hair and eye colour.

Worth every penny of that £3.50.

Jill

Thanks Mummy Bear for the info.

I have census copies and Lucy Marina Cass m John Dowsett are confirmed relatives.
I have no idea who parents of John Cass are yet as I haven't got that far back... a couple of options but I got stuck with..and curious with...the Royal Navy ship .

I will now obtain this Navy record and see how I get on.

janet